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 Post subject: Re: Longclaw: Cape
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:55 pm 
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Only ever seen one, at Abrahamskraal in WCNP.

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 Post subject: Re: Longclaw: Cape
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BBapt, sorry. Rietvlei is situated near & east of Centurion, Pretoria. Some of the earlier postings also refer to Rietvlei (Nature Reserve) so I assumed ..........
If you are near and want to take some photos of LC's there are plenty!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Longclaw: Cape
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I have been there Bobbi, but there is also one in the Cape near Milnerton, where I am sure they can also be seen.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Before I say where we saw this bird, I would just like to get your gut feel on it. Did see it two weekends ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Well my gut feel is an immature male Cape Longclaw.
Right down to the perching habit on rocks and termite mounds.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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For some reason it looks a lot like a Yellow-throated longclaw to me, but I'm still a novice with these things... :)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Oh, I see Maxwell posted in the meanwhile. Same family... :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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mel123 wrote:
For some reason it looks a lot like a Yellow-throated longclaw to me, but I'm still a novice with these things... :)


ditto. juvenile.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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:D :D

Interesting, just what I was hoping for. Disagreement on the id of the bird.

I will let it go a little further to see what else is said about its id. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Why not?
What colour would you say that belly was?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Maxwell, for me it is a bit of coin-toss between juvenile yellowthroated and juvenile cape longclaw. The belly looks darkly yellowish to me (which can be interpreted as "buffish to orange" as stated in my Sasol guide), but I made my decision in the end based on what looks (unclearly) like yellowish edging to the wing feathers (supposedly a distinguishing feature between the juveniles of the two species...). But Wildtuinman will probably tell me I'm wrong for some reason or the other... :tongue: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Dabchick I am agreeing with all your observations. And that's exactly why I am unsure of this bird's identity. I will let the discussion carry on for today still.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Dabchick wrote:
I made my decision in the end based on what looks (unclearly) like yellowish edging to the wing feathers (supposedly a distinguishing feature between the juveniles of the two species...).


The throat colour and belly seem to be from the same shade card to me too.
I can see yellowish tinted primaries but not on the rest so know what you mean so how about the habitat and where it is perched? Viz ,my old copy of Newman's.

Looks like we are being left to our devices by the absence of further commentary so for devilment if nothing else I will stick by my first call. Anyway wildtuinman a decent photo would be nice. :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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You're all wrong. It's neither a Cape Longclaw nor a Yellow-throated Longclaw but a juvenile Yellow-breasted Pipit.
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Haha, sorry about that, I just had this strong desire today to throw a cat amongst the pigeons. But no, I don't believe the bird is a Yellow-breasted Pipit.

I can't say that I am 100% sure but I am leaning very strongly towards Cape Longclaw here. Yellow-throated Longclaw is generally a more brightly coloured and boldly marked bird, even when comparing the juveniles. Where Cape Longclaw has more of a brown back with buff feather edging, Yellow-throated Longclaw has more of a grey back with white feather edging. Ignoring the throat for the moment, the yellow belly of YTLC is much brighter yellow than the yellow belly of CLC. This can be seen on the juveniles as well. Juvenile YTLC typically has brighter yellow underparts than juvenile CLC, even though it is still paler than adult YTLC.

So to summarize:
1. I believe that, if this bird was a YTLC, the back would have been more boldly marked.
2. I believe the particularly pale underparts points to CLC rather than YTLC, fairly similar to this here bird on yonder webpage (the last picture). -> Ama-click-click

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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deefstes wrote:
You're all wrong. It's neither a Cape Longclaw nor a Yellow-throated Longclaw but a juvenile Yellow-breasted Pipit.

Ha Ha. No need to apologise. I had you down for a jester or a nutter when reading the first bit above. :slap: :dance:

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