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 Post subject: Re: Nossob - Kalahari TC Roads
Unread postPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:06 am 
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We drove a 4WD Tucson to Gharagab. It had no problems with the dunes, but struggled with the ground clearance. The exhaust and underside of the car was very shiny afterwards. I think the CRV has even less clearance and more things sticking out than the Tucson.

You can do it, but you will have to drive halfway up the middle mannetjie for hours which is very tiring.


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 Post subject: Re: Nossob - Kalahari TC Roads
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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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Could anyone advise me with regard to accommodation and access to Kgalagadi in terms of Sedan vehicles. I really want to go there but does not have a 4x4 vehicle - on their home page they state that the park is not sedan friendly.

Is there any camp that one can go to and and roads that one can drive on with a normal sedan? and if so where?


I drive a Daihatsu Materia

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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Hi there BrendaK,

It is not that you would not be able to access most of the park with a sedan, it’s just that when the roads do carry heavy traffic the roads tend to become very corrugated and not very comfortable for sedan vehicles, even with rain storms we had yesterday and then all the water in the roads it is a bit difficult.

This week alone I have note over a dozen sedan vehicles in the park.
There are areas whereby the shoulder of the road is a bit too high for a sedan vehicle to have great game viewing opportunity.

With a sedan you would easily reach Nossob, Mata-Mata and the two dune roads. I have not seen one sedan vehicle actually pulling up at the technical department but mainly the 4x4 vehicles.

Take it slow and the Kalahari will reveal itself to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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Thanks Kgalagadi Guru -
starting to feel the excitement growing.
Which camp do you recommend?

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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I've always visited KTP in a sedan (1992 Toyota Corolla; 2007 VW Polo; 2010 Ford Fiesta) and apart from the corrugations (which don't bother me much, but then I'm driving a hired car :wink: :whistle: ) and the fact that some of the verges are a bit high, I've not had any problems. The only two camps that require a 4x4 are Bitterpan and Garaghab.

While there are endless 'discussions' about which type of vehicle is 'better' for KTP, I visit in a sedan because for me, as a solo traveler, the considerably higher cost of a 4x4 is more than I'm willing to spend. I'd rather budget for more nights in the park. As well, I prefer being on 'eye level' with the animals, rather than looking down on them from above. And I've rarely felt that I've missed anything because of the sedan's lower profile.

So don't be detered from visiting just because you don't have a 4x4!


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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Thank you Arks - which camp do you recommend? When visiting KNP I always try and book accommodation in the more rustic camps. I am 9 out of 10 times also a solo traveler, now and again I am forced to share my escape to tranquility with a family member or friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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the direct road -Twee Rivieren to Nossob- (via Nossob river or east side) is only for 4x4...
and like KG said, for some part of the park a sedan is too low... we have to climb on the roof... and it's not allowed :shock:
but no problem for the roads :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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which camp do you recommend?


Hello BrendaK -- I think it will be more a case of where you can get a booking :lol:

When do you intend to visit ?

Twee Rivieren is the only camp with 24 hour electricity and a restuarant. It also has a shop and a garage, as do Nossob and MataMata. The wilderness camps have no facilities at all -- apart from the accommodation of course.

All the camps are great :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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Dear P@m

It is not a matter of when do I want to visit, it is a matter of when can I get a booking - that is why I am nagging about the camp.

Are the wilderness camps accessible with a sedan? I am not really one for the bright lights etc. :redface:

Thanks for the info :gflower:

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :doh:

Ok -- now we're on the same page :thumbs_up:

All the camps on the SA side, except Gharagab and Bitterpan, are accessible with a sedan :thumbs_up:

And no bright lights in KTP -- even Nossob and Mata Mata have 'lights out' at 10 :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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:lol:

Thanks P@m now I have an idea of where to start. Don't you think lights out at 10 is a bit late? :think:

Just joking.

On a serious note

Do you think I can do Kalahari Tented Kamp to Nossob to Grootkolk?

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 Post subject: Ground Clearance per info page
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Per the Kgalagadi site "Vehicles which will be using any of the 4x4 routes in the park must note that the recommended ground clearance should be 30cm to 45cm, to make the drive more enjoyable"

I have been wondering if this is correct for while and now decided to ask the question.

There are not many standard 4x4 vehicles with that ground clearance. The Land Cruiser 76 series (23cm) and Jeep Wrangler(25cm) for example.

Is this info per the info page correct ?

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 Post subject: Re: Ground Clearance per info page
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Hollebollegys, it should be OK to go with any 4x4 with Low-range. :thumbs_up:

You see, there in the northern cape, the father always tells the son, "Son, this is 30cm" when it is actually only 15cm, from there the mistake. :tongue:


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 Post subject: Re: Ground Clearance per info page
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The keyword is enjoyable
But all other 4x4 will do the trick
Even your sedan car
but less enjoyable

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