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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
Unread postPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:45 pm 
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Thanks Anne Maria!
Bobbi Jane is correct that is a Olive Whip snake(Psammophis mossambica)


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Thank you all for your comments :clap: If it's really a Olive Whip snake it was a very big specimen :shock:

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The olivewhip venom is not dangerous to man but can cause pain, swelling and nausea.


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H. Erectus,

Olive Whip Snakes are "mildly venomous" back fanged snakes and are generally considered not to be dangerous to humans. Having said that however, they should be treated with caution as there venom is largely unstudied and there are a few bites on record which have resulted in fairly severe symptoms. Most bites will result in localised swelling and pain which resolves in a few days.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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H. Erectus,
In Southern Africa and the rest of Africa for that matter, the snakes which we currently refer to as Whip Snakes all belong to the genus Psammophis. They used to called either grass or sand snakes depending on the species.

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They are small to large snakes with the head distinct from the neck. The eye is medium to large in size with a round pupil.
The grooved back fangs are large and sit just behind the eye in the top jaw. The anterior mandibular teeth are distinctly enlarged and can give the impression that these snake have two sets of fangs.
They are fast active diurnal hunters which prey on a large variety of small invertebrates such as rodents, lizard and even other snakes. Although they have venom some species utilize constriction in conjuction with the venom to subdue prey. Most species inhabit savannah, arid scrubland and grasslands. They are oviparous - egg layers. cheers


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 Post subject: Please help us identify this snake
Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:26 pm 
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Hi all,

On our september trip, we saw a total of 3 different snakes.
One was a tiger snake, and the other one was a little silver snake.
Now the 3rd snake is a mystery to us, maybe one of you can identify it?
Here are some pictures:

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Thanks!

Ralph and Lenny


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 Post subject: Re: Please help us identify this snake
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Fankie wrote:
Hi Ralph & Jenny

Great photos of an Olive Grass Snake (Psammophis Mossambicus)

These were previously known as Hissing Sand Snakes (I've however yet to hear one hiss - probably the reason for the name change)

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Hi Fankie,

Thanks for clearing that up! It really was a beautiful snake, it was so quick.
Now we know what snake it was.

Many thanks for your help :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Please help us identify this snake
Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:23 pm 
Hi Ralph and Jennie

What was the size of the snake?

The large eye, head away from the ground and the fact that you mentioned it's speed give me the impression that it may be a black mamba.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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MacAdder wrote:
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Anyone a idea what this snake was??

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Where in the world was picture taken?


Kruger park - near pretoriuskop - march 2012

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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That's an Olive Grass snake (Psammophis mossambicus). Even though they are venomous the venom is not considered dangerous to humans. It's quite sad to see how many dead ones are seen in the KNP!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Rookie, thanks for the larger view! (Olive Grass Snake)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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During my last trip in march 2012 we spotted this snake having a meal. We think it's a female boomslang but not sure. Any help is welcome. It was at the waterhole halfway the tropic of capricorn road.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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No, not Boomslang but Sand or Whip snake!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Daffy, these are some really good photos! Not many people can brag with photos like this!

The sand snake is not a karoo sand snake (Psammophis notostictus). The two brown species in the Kruger are the olive grass snake (Psammophis mossambicus) or the short-snouted grass snake (Psammophis brevirostris). Your snake doesn't quite look like the typical olive grass snake as it has a light line down the back, but based on the location I would still put my money on it. Short-snouted grass snakes generally prefer highveld grasslands such as those around Gauteng, but if you look at the recent SARCA maps you will notice that they have been recorded not too far away. Either way, I'd still go for a olive grass snake...

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