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Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Mant » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:49 am

Hi,

Does anybody know when Duke's tusks will be on display in the Letaba Elephant Hall?

Even though I didn't have the privilege to see this very famous tusker :( I would like to see his tusks.

R.I.P Duke!

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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:55 pm

I asked this a few years ago Mant, just after the second one broke off, and was told by the staff there that the displays would have to be reworked and permission would have to be obtained.
So if you are very young, you might........
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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Imberbe » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:53 pm

I believe it will take some time.

There are stirrings to re design the entire museum and update it with modern technology. I believe such a move might create a possibility to incorporate Duke.

But, nothing has been decided and yes, lots of water will still flow down the Letaba before that happens.
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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Travelstory » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:51 pm

So saddened by the news of Duke, this great elephant passing away. I hope Elephant Hall puts his tusk, skull and story on display soon - even if it is a temporary exhibit - so those who did not get to see him in life get to see the greatness of this wonderful elephant in his death by reading his story and seeing his gigantic tusks.
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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby TheunsH » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:18 am

It's actually rather easy. There is enough space in the hall and to mount it all with a short history of Duke shouldn't be that time consuming or difficult? :hmz:

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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Lesego » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:50 am

Morning Mant and evryone :)

Duke indeed was a very special and magnificent elephant. :gflower:

The person in charge of the Elephant Hall is currently on leave this month but when it comes to tusks being on display, certain requirements and criteria will be put in place. The tusks would have to supersede the tuskers that are already at the hall.

The KNP continues to add new tuskers to its ranks through photographic submissions of guests. Photographs and video material sent in by visitors are used to understand the habits and movements of tuskers in an attempt to learn more about them.

For more information on the tuskers, how and where to submit photos etc, please visit http://www.sanparks.org/parks/kruger/elephants/ or enquire at the Elephant Museum in Letaba Rest Camp (013 735 6664).

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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Rooies » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:03 pm

Thanks Lesego for the reply in a relatively short time. This is how we would like SANParks to respond. Although you don't have an immediate answer, it shows that you guys take note of what this forum has to say. It will (hopefully) prevent the unnecessary accusations and mudslinging that have plagued this forum before.
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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Imberbe » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:14 pm

Even just the physical preparation (taxidermy) of such a huge scull will take months.
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Re: Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Lesego » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:31 pm

Pleasure Bush Baptist :wink:

HansJuergen, I will enquire about your suggestion on building a second Memory hall in the south. :w:

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Re: Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby mattmillielibby » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:26 pm

We asked this in Letaba yesterday and the lady in the elephant hall said yes eventually he will :)
They have the part of his tusks that broke and are waiting for his muscles etc to break down then they will remove whats left to measure just how big they were. Then they will eventually get his skull etc.
She also told us that they had estimated his age wrong, and they now believe he was around 35 years OLDER than they thought!
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Re: Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby MATTHYS » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:48 pm

The stats will be interesting :thumbs_up:

Also interesting is KNP Spokesman's post here:

How old is Duke?

I understand that the only really accurate way to age an elephant is with his teeth.

An elephant has 6 sets of molars in its lifetime. These are replaced every couple of years until the last set is left. Most elephants on this last set of molars have only a few years left before they eventually die (quite literally of starvation as, without their teeth, they can't process food).

Scientists/researchers have documented the shape and size of these molar sets and, by looking at the teeth, we can tell within a few years, the age of an elephant.

At a quick glance, you can also get an "idea" by looking at the shape of an elephant's head. If it has deep depressions in the forehead region, that animal is probably fairly old.

As I have not yet looked inside Duke's mouth, I am not really sure but I would say he is a pretty old elephant and is probably about 50-odd years old.

Hope this helps ...

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Hi Weebirdy

Duke is a very special animal whom I have only seen once. There are, however, some of my colleagues who have seen him more than once (notably some of the guides at Lower Sabie, the rangers at Croc Bridge and Tshokwane and, of course, our elephant scientist Dr Ian Whyte who has seen him a FEW times!).
He has also been spotted on the Lebombo Overland Eco-Trial (the four night, five day trip on our eastern boundary) so his range is fairly big.
The square notch on his left ear is small but distinctive, it is just a shade lower than his eye, on the edge of his hear "flap". You can't really see it on the photograph above but it is amazing how it stands out when you see this elephant "in elephant". [well, I can't really say "in person", can I?]
Less obvious is a strange V-shape (on its side) fold on the left ear but, as Wildtuinman says, when you see him there is no doubt in your mind as the tips of his tusks literally scrape the ground. In fact, rangers tell me that he often "sleeps" by leaning on these VERY LONG tusks.
He normally has 5/6 "Askari" bulls with him but over December 2006 he was spotted with a family group, including calves. Although it might not be (elephants have very loose associations between bulls and cows), there is a good chance that they are his siblings, so there is a bit of go in the old boy yet!
Incidentally, we think he is in the 55-60 year time span, which means that he doesn't have that much longer to go.

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Re: Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Imberbe » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:13 pm

I think that if Duke is included in the museum, it would partly be because of his remarkable story, not merely because of tusk size. The Letaba museum is not a museum dedicated to record holders, and should also not become such a place. It should be a place of dedication to all magnificent animals, and their representatives there are merely that.
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Re: Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Mant » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:38 am

I do hope they put Duke's tusks and his story up in the Elephant Hall because otherwise there will be some very unhappy people including me!!

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Re: Duke's Tusks On Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby bucky » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:15 pm

Why does the criteria simply need to be the above, what about the uniqueness of the entire Duke story ?
Surely a single display with this in mind would be the way to create a duke display, rather than just simply a "one of the biggest" displays ?

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Re: Will Duke's Tusks be on Display in Letaba Elephant Hall

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:55 pm

Indeed bucky. :thumbs_up:

Duke probably captured the public imagination more than any other Kruger creature by a long way. It deserves to be included and fast tracked at that!
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