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Re: Save the African Acacia - Sign a petition

Unread postby Imberbe » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:10 pm

There is a meeting sometime which must make a decision ... not sure when.

Maybe we can find out. :hmz:
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Unread postby onewithnature » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:14 pm

Thanks :thumbs_up:

Could you reveal how many votes we have so far?
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Unread postby onewithnature » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:54 am

Would love to know what impact we're having in this regard, Imberbe! Can you reveal the numbers?
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Unread postby Stark » Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:54 am

To Stark: "Bumping posts is bad forum etiquette." :naughty:

Stark: "I know." :tongue:

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Unread postby bishop3006 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:45 pm

Signed too on the site, AND clicked the confirmation email! And I have read on there that the next meet where this is to be discussed is to be in Mebourne in 2011.
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Unread postby Dotty » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:51 pm

voted and confirmed :thumbs_up:
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Unread postby Dabchick » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:47 am

Micetta wrote:Will somebody please explain to a blonde, why there cannot be an african acacia and an australion acacia?


voted. :thumbs_up:

Time to bump this thread again :twisted:

@ Micetta: recently completed DNA studies suggest that the Australian acacias and the African (and American) acacias are not as closely related as previously thought. This means one of the two groups need to get another "surname" - which is the genus name (Acacia) - to show that they are quite different.

The right decision - following the rules of the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature - should be that the African and American acacias retain the genus name Acacia (because the type specimen for the name Acacia is an African species), but internal politics made the powers-that-be among international botanists decide that the Australian wattles should get the name - :evil: :evil: . So please go vote "yes" at the link provided in the first post of this thread, and help African botanists challenge the decision at the next meeting in 2011.

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Unread postby oddesy » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:09 am

Dabchick :thumbs_up:

What is so infuriating is that by doing that they are completeing regarding the general rules of nomenclature, a type specimen is a type specimen you cannot change that :slap: :evil:
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Re: Save the African Acacia - Sign a petition

Unread postby onewithnature » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:00 am

Thanks for the explanation, Dabchick - I see it is indeed about a power struggle: really silly as nature couldn't care less! However, I've been so at sea with renaming the birds already that I don't want to begin relearning the trees too! I voted. :thumbs_up:

BTW, when is the final decision being taken?
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Unread postby Jungle Junkie » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:15 am

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Unread postby lemonbalm » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:54 pm

Hi All, Just thought you would like to know that that meeting was held from the 17th-22nd July in Melbourne (I was lucky enough to attend that and the following conference :D ) and Sadly Africa has lost the name Acacia. As Dabchick said earlier, it was a case of politics... :(
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Unread postby okie » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:57 pm

And the worst is that : Acacia is actually a derivitive meaning with a point ( thorny ) , whereas the majority of Acacia's in Australia do not even have thorns :wall:
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Re: Save the African Acacia - Sign a petition

Unread postby Imberbe » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:53 pm

:evil:

Now make us change ... :sniper:
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Re: Save the African Acacia - Sign a petition

Unread postby lemonbalm » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:21 pm

:lol: Yes, that is what we warned the international people proposing to take the name away from Africa would happen. I somehow don't think this 'war' is over yet.
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Re: Save the African Acacia - Sign a petition

Unread postby Dabchick » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:00 pm

Imberbe wrote::evil:

Now make us change ... :sniper:


Indeed. No one said that anyone need to accept the classification that was proposed where the African, American acacias, and the Australian wattles, should all have different genus names. It is quite acceptable to state that one only accept the original classification (called Acacia sensu lato or "Acacia in the broad sense", which means that we call all the affected species -African, American, and Australian species- Acacia. You only need to use the new names if you accept the new classification. Which I don't - I will call them Acacia.

And the battle will go on - at the next meeting (however many years in the future :hmz: ) there will very likely be a proposal to reverse the decision that was taken at this last meeting.


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