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Logic behind Lettering and Numbering the Roads?

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Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby Dupacc » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:16 pm

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I've had the privilege of being a regular visitor to Kruger for more than 30 years, but must admit that I do not know Kruger roads, especially when reference is made to a road using only a number - e.g. S102.

I obviously have a lot of maps at home, and recently brought one to the office, but still find myself looking for many minutes trying to locate the specific road mentioned in a TR or (for example) when best/worst roads are discussed. I never knew that S102 is so far away from S100 and S101!

Suggestion: can we try to include an indication of the area where the road is? E.g. on the S102 (south of Skukuza), we saw Doggies; or on the S101 (near Shingwedzi), we saw a huge Ellie? Or on the S106 (Central KNP) we saw .... etc.

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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby ndloti » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:11 pm

I have attempted to do this as far as possible - the "S34 Munywini road" or the S52 Redrocks / Tshanga road .

The S terminology better suits the R & N road areas outside the KNP ?
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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby Dabchick » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:37 am

I agree with Dupacc, when mentioning a road with reference to the nearest camp, it makes it much easier to locate on a map (or just imagine the general area if no map is handy).

I'm sorry Ndloti, but "S34 Munywini road" doesn't mean anything to me - no idea where it is without searching on a map. The Redrocks road you mention is only familiar to me because I know where "Redrocks" is. Someone who doesn't know where "Redrocks" is would appreciate a mention of "near Shingwedzi", I would imagine.

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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby Elsa » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:15 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:If you go there often you should know them like the roads around your home......
That's just it, I do, maybe even better at times 8)
and guess tend to forget that others might not know them like that so I will try and add more detail in future. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby johanrebel » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:11 pm

With all due respect, the KNP has such a simple, limited and generally logically numbered road network that any regular visitor should have little trouble learning most of it by heart, and be able to dirve around the entire park without referring to a map other than very occasionally.

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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby ndloti » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:28 am

Agreed , true Kruger lovers should immediately know the location of the road between Ngirivane & the main tar road between Nsemani & Timbavati river , and not have to refer to the S12 , which to me sounds somewhat "technical".
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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby forestgump » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:05 am

It is only since joining the forum that I have really had to start getting to know roads by numbers. I hardly ever use a map when driving in Kruger, so do not get to know roads by numbers. When looking at a map it is usually in a tree book. I think it is a great idea to be a bit more descriptive when mentioning a road.
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Re: Refering to roads in KNP: a suggestion

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:35 pm

Dupacc wrote:It really makes it so much easier for us folks who just think about the road to Timbavati and can not remember it is the S127 :roll: :roll:


S127? I thought it was the S39 :wink:
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Numbering of Roads in Kruger - Logical sequence

Unread postby Umar_Daya » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:13 am

is there any logical way in which the park roads have been labelled, you know for memorising purposes

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Re: Logical sequence

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:14 pm

I presume there was in the early days, but as time went by and the park grew with more camps & roads...who knows.

The tar roads begin with H (Hoofpad - main road)
The gravel roads begin - mostly - with S (Sandpad - gravel road)
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Re: Logical sequence

Unread postby Dupacc » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:22 pm

I beg to differ from BB :twisted: :twisted:

Some sand /gravel roads are also begins with a H (for example H5, the Old Selati rail Road in souhtern KNP; or H2-2, the Voortrekker Road between Pretoriuskop and Afsaal).

So Umar_Daya: I could not find any logic in the numbering of the roads. From Letaba for example you can travel on the S131 to the West and have the S132 turn off as well as the S133. BUT you also have the S47. I guess they number the roads as they make them??
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Re: Logical sequence

Unread postby DuQues » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:56 pm

As far as I know the numbered the roads as they were realised.
Some sand /gravel roads are also begins with a H (for example H5, the Old Selati rail Road in souhtern KNP; or H2-2, the Voortrekker Road between Pretoriuskop and Afsaal).

Yep! As BB says, hoofdweg, main road.
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Re: Logical sequence

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:21 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:The tar roads begin with H (Hoofpad - main road)
The gravel roads begin - mostly - with S (Sandpad - gravel road)



Read it again Dupacc :whistle:

The word Mostly! :wink:
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Re: Logical sequence

Unread postby Elsa » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:02 am

I am also pretty sure in the old days of the park none of the H or hoofpads or any others for that matter were tarred and they were all gravel. :wink:
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Re: Logical sequence

Unread postby Dupacc » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:46 am

Interesting point Elsa: I never thought of that!

@ BB: I will read more carefully :redface: :doh: . By the way: are there any roads in KNP that does not start with a S or H? I can not think of any? And what is used for roads to/from a new gate should a new gate be opened (e.g. Shangoni in Northern Kruger) ? Does it then become a Hoofpad (Main road) and will S52 (for example) be renamed? :hmz: :hmz:
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