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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Lizet Grobbelaar » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:17 pm

Mgoddard wrote: I thought with so many new and very knowlegable ppl here I will try again :)


Trevor, can only be you then :P :P new and an expert! :P :P Thanks for the confirmation :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Richprins » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Hello!

Sorry, I'm not an expert... :redface:

And don't want to hammer a point, but that last one of mgoddard's just looks strange to me...

Aren't the AHE's meant to have "stove-pipe" leggings, even as immatures? This one seems to have quite bare yellow legs...

I looked at Roberts' a bit, and the habitat seems to suit the Honey buzzard quite well, as well as a bewildering array of colour variations.

How big was it, in "eagle" terms, do you think, mgoddard?

Just asking! :tongue:


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Tawnies and vultures occur together often, in my experience, and the eagles are often first at a kill!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby sandeep » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:45 am

Thanks Richprins.
Mgoddard stunning pics :clap:
Trevor/ Lizet could you pl elaborate as to why the last pics would be of an imm AHE and not a honey buzzard... :hmz:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Lizet Grobbelaar » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:24 pm

sandeep,
Honey-buzzard has a longer tail with a different tail pattern, two dark bars at the tail base and one broader dark bar at the tip.
The bill and claws of this bird appear to be thick, robust and the superior orbit edge of this bird gives a more fearsome appearance of an Eagle which is not the case with Honey-buzzard with its small round head and bill.
There is also the white windows on the upper wing, which is typical for AHE

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby sandeep » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:56 am

Lizet Thank you and your comments much appreciated. I recently returned from a trip to the Central India jungles and was comparing the various birds and animals with what I have experienced in SA and it is quite fascinating, for eg the European honey buzzard in SA and the oriental honey buzzard in India.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby jacliz » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:35 pm

Please help me with this one, seen on the Mahonie Loop, late afternoon. I think it is an African Hawk-Eagle but I'm wondering about the streaking on the thighs. It was in August last year and it was on its own.
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Unread postby Richprins » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:00 pm

:lol:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby FlorisCathy » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:38 pm

Hi Jacliz,

Nic pic. I think it's a Osprey...I never saw one...
I am curious what others think about this one...
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Lizet Grobbelaar » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:57 pm

jacliz,
:thumbs_up: AHE. Ayres's Eagle will show lots of dark blotches on the leggings not fine streaks, and the cap will extend lower down so that the cheeks are dark. This is not an Osprey...

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby jacliz » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:59 pm

Thanks Richprins, FlorisCathy & Lizet. I did think it must be an AHE but as I have never seen an Ayres I was hoping.... . I am sure that when I DO eventually see one I will now be able to tell the difference :)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Richprins » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:25 pm

Just to show how one can become confused when ID'ing the brown eagles:

mgoddard's AHE, followed by a Honey Buzzard!!!!!!:

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And again!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby jacliz » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:46 pm

They certainly can be very confusing :? . I've never seen a Honey Buzzard either (I don't think!)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Mgoddard » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:06 pm

Very interesting comparison RP :D Sorry I did not answer your question about size as I was not sure if you were "just being difficult" or really interested :shock:

I have many pics of Mature AHE and cant believe the difference, but then....look at Bateleurs?? Who would think that the general brown job would turn into something so beautifull :shock:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Richprins » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:36 pm

Mgoddard wrote: Sorry I did not answer your question about size as I was not sure if you were "just being difficult" or really interested :shock:



A bit of both! :twisted: So what's the answer?

Nice to see you again, Martie! :thumbs_up:

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Re: Eagles: African Hawk Eagle

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:03 am

Matjulu Loop near Berg-en-Dal in January 2011.

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