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 Post subject: Big lense for Canon 450D
Unread postPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:34 pm 
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What lense bigger than a 300mm will you use that is not going to bankrupt you.

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Really quite happy with the 100-400L from Canon

In the same money area, bit cheaper
Sigma 150-500
Friend of mine owns one and we used both these lenses in Kruger last year
Sigma is a little slower but optics are great

Unless you want a prime lens
Which are way more expensive

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:30 am 
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Hello harrys;

Agree with Bert... For pure value-for-money the 100-400 takes a lot of beating. I have one and love it! It's a little 'slow' at the long end (f/5.6), but I compensate by ramping up the ISO. The 450D should be able to cope with ISO400 without too much noise, and ISO800 is acceptable with a little work in Neat Image or Noise Ninja etc.

It's the lens I expect to have surgically attached to my 40D in KNP in October :D


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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:54 am 
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Another 100-400 owner chiming in. :D

It's a perfect lens for Kruger, especially as you do get sightings closer by, like the mongooses or dungbeetles. Simply zoom out, and done.
At 1600 grams it's not too heavy which is a factor when flying, and during walks it's quite manageble while still giving you 400 mm.

Quality wise it's great (well, it is an L lens.), though slightly less sharp than a fixed focus lens.
The bokeh is great, way better than the Sigma lenses have, and at least as good as topquality Nikon lenses.

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Then there is a Canon Prime 400L 5.6
Lacks the IS but glass, sharpness etc top
Real value for money

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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There is another option of course; which is to hire a lens. I don't know the SA market well enough to guide you, but there are certainly lens hire outfits in the UK & USA, and it's not an uncommon facility!

To hire a 100-400 or a 400 f/5.6 in the UK would be about SAR 700 for one week...

Alternatively, a 300 f/2.8 would set you back c. SAR 1600 for the week, but if you have converters, adding a 1.4x would give you 420mm @ f/4 - without any notable loss of IQ, whereas a 2x would give you 600mm @ f/5.6, but IQ suffers a just a little, and AF struggles to keep up...

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Harrys, the 100-400 is a brilliant lens! but the 400mm prime non IS is also a great option provided you can stay still. The sigma 150-500 also produces very nice results and is around the same price as the 400mm prime or maybe a bit less.

Maybe another option for you to look at could be the sigma 120-400mm. From what i have read the optics are fairly good and it also has optical stabilisation (same as the 150-500). Plus its the cheapest at around R9500. All the links are for SA based shops :thumbs_up:

Have a look here:
Canon 400mm F5.6
Canon 100-400 F4.5-5.6
Sigma 150-500mm
Sigma 120-400mm

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Boksburg...
How about going to Pretoria to pick up a rental?
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM R 336.00
Canon EF 400mm f/5.6 L USM R 264.00

You can pop off to say Rietvlei or such to test them. Unfortunately that shop/forum doesn't have Sigma lenses, but really, the Canons are better.

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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DuQues wrote:
Boksburg...
How about going to Pretoria to pick up a rental?
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM R 336.00
Canon EF 400mm f/5.6 L USM R 264.00

You can pop off to say Rietvlei or such to test them. Unfortunately that shop/forum doesn't have Sigma lenses, but really, the Canons are better.


Hi DuQues;

Those are STUNNINGLY good :shock: rental prices - half of what I'd pay in the UK!

I've been thinking about hiring a 500mm for my trip; but if I could hire in Pretoria at those same (discounted) prices; that'd be much better... Would you post a link to where you've seen those rental charges please? THANKS in advance...

Cheers...


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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Hedrus has good pricing indeed, as well as a good forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Hi DuQues;

If it looks to good to be true; it probably is :)

7-day hire of a 100-400mm works out at SAR 1722 incl. insurance; more than twice the UK rental, which is what I'd have expected... Still; it was a nice dream while it lasted :lol:

Back to the drawing-board...


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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Hi Iam off today, so gues what i am going to do now. I Think I will be busy. Thanks for all the advise.

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Enjoy, and let us see what you got in front of the lens(es)?

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 Post subject: Re: Big lense for Canon 450D
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Hi harrys;

Let us know what you finally decided on, and, as DuQues says, post up some results from your trip!

Something for you to think about if you're not used to using Image Stabilised lenses; like the 100-400... (If you are, then just ignore me - but hopefully others might find it useful...)

IS lenses generally have 2 active settings;
- Position 1 - is normally used for shooting still objects and the gyros will stabilise both horizontal & vertical movement...
- Position 2 - is normally used for shooting moving objects when you'll be panning; such as Birds-in-Flight or moving/running wildlife. In this position the vertical stabiliser is turned off; so the lens isn't fighting your movement...

But, don't be afraid to turn IS OFF all together. If the light is good enough to obtain a high enough shutter-speed, you shouldn't normally need IS anyway! (IS should also be turned OFF if using mounted on a tripod; the reason for that is for another day...). Apart from that, the IS sometimes slows down the AF when you most need it!

Longer lenses like the 100-400 also typically have AF distance limiters. The default for the 100-400 is 1.8m, but for use in KNP, I would have it generally set it to max (6.5m) to help reduce the amount of 'hunting' the AF needs to do... Again, you'll need to remember to switch it back to the default for shooting any close-up objects.

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Good luck & have fun...

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