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Just had a wonderful time in Kruger - the best 4-days trip I've ever had!! TR to follow ...
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And, guess what, I'm taking malaria prophylaxis!! And so is my daughter and my SO!

Let me tell you that I have just read through all the posts on this thread and I've both shook my head and smiled. Shook my head because I realise that some of the things are ignorance and that the state of malarial understanding in South Africa seems to need some serious educational boost. Smiled because I realised that, until I had had the good fortune to study malaria and come across, first hand, people who contracted the disease, I myself had had a similar cavalier attitude!! :redface: :redface: I had thought I knew it all, yet I was wrong.

One of the forum mites has a signature that states essentially that, if you are blessed with something, it is your responsibility to share it with others. Some may argue vehemently against what I say here, but I will say what I need to anyway! For, if anything I say about malaria helps anyone, or even saves a life, I will feel that I have done my duty.

Of course, it doesn't mean that absolutely everything I say is cast in stone - there is nobody on earth that knows it all - but I have had enough experience and professional knowledge (been involved in a malarial hotline for over two years and written articles) for me to suggest that people at least consider some of the things I impart. If you don't want to, nobody's forcing you. I feel that my understanding of malaria has helped me and my family over the years, and I trust it will help yours too. :pray: :pray:

For the following comments - and from a medicolegal standpoint - you understand that my disclaimer is important, so that some tannie or oom somewhere who misunderstood what I wrote doesn't sue the pants off me :wink:


Disclaimer: My recommendations here - though based on some experience and some drug, and other, knowledge - are not absolute, and further consultation with suitable health-care professionals is suggested before a final decision is taken on whether to enter a malarial area, what prophylaxis to use, and any general factors and limitations that need to be taken into account. Furthermore, I only advise based on what information is given by the person(s) entering the malarial area, but I have no control on the information given to me, and so such information could possibly be incomplete or misleading. Moreover, people vary subjectively as to how they metabolise, and react to, drugs and other substances, which further accentuates that my suggestions here are only general suggestions, and therefore not to be taken as pertaining to every person alike.

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My dad works in Zim and Mozam and then visits KNP often, these are obviously all Malaria areas. He doesn't take malaria prophylaxis, but carry's the treatment with him as he spends weeks out in the bush without healthcare facilities nearby. - it would be silly, and unhealthy to take pills everyday. However, when my mom, sister or I go and visit him, or spend holidays in Moz or KNP we always take prophylaxis. My dad has contracted Malaria 4 times in the past 15 years, and when he gets it he feels (and looks) like death!

It's quite simple really, you can compare malaria to car accidents if you want to, but then you should look at it like this:
When you get into your car do you a) put on your seatbelt; b) strap your child in a car seat to keep him/her safe; c) make sure that the tyre pressure is correct to prevent a possible blowout; d) make sure that your car has airbags; e) not speed; f) not overtake on a blindrise? - THEN YOU ARE TAKING PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT THAT ONE IN A MILLION ACCIDENT DOES NOT HAPPEN.

If you can do the same with Malaria, especially if you have not been to a Malaria area before, then why not just do it?? Taking pills may be uncomfortable (like wearing a seatbelt), but it could save your life? A child whose immune system is not fully developed is most at risk to getting Malaria, why not go to a Malaria free area (it's like not strapping your child into a carseat and leaving him/her to drift around on the backseat when you could strap him/her in, stop worrying and still have awesome sightings)

Just my 2c worth, but obviously everyone opinions will differ - until you've had Malaria that is! :wink:


Beautifully stated BF!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Great analogy too between car accidents and malaria!

Several parts of Zimbabwe and all of Mozambique are HIGH-RISK for malaria all year round. Some parts of Zimbabwe and some parts of South Africa are seasonal risk. Some parts of Zimbabwe and most of South Africa are considered not to be malarial risk areas (although there may be rare cases of contracted malaria in these regions).

Many people never contract a single bout of malaria in their lives - despite having been to malarial risk areas for donkey's years - but that doesn't mean that no one will ever contract the disease!! Some are lucky, some are not. It's that simple.

I agree entirely, BF, that it is prudent and responsible to take whatever precautionary malarial measures are necessary based on the risk of contracting malaria in a specific area and season. Bully for you, your mom, and your sister for taking antimalarial prophylaxis! :clap:

Prevention (if suitable or appropriate) is always better than cure ... ALWAYS!


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He [BF's dad] doesn't take malaria prophylaxis, but carry's the treatment with him as he spends weeks out in the bush without healthcare facilities nearby. - it would be silly, and unhealthy to take pills everyday.


Note that, for many people, the hassle and/or expense of taking malarial prophylaxis for extended periods causes them to decide not to! Your dad has already had malaria 4 times, but seems savvy enough to weigh up the risks of contracting it versus the side-effects, expense, and other factors of taking the prophylaxis.

Despite this, there are indeed people who choose to take long-tern malaria prophylaxis, and who do very well on that! It is really a personal decision and a weighing up of benefits versus non-benefits of doing so. Soem of the drugs do well over many months of prophylactic usage.

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I am normally the first when in a group in the KNP to be bitten by mosquitoes , I have not taken prophlaxis in the last 20 years (must have been more than 400 nights) - besides at one place in the central district along a dry river course where there is a stagnant water pool from the borehole overflow - where we were advised to take prophylactics as a researcher who was there shortly prior to us had died a few weeks later after returning overseas - though perhaps the medical knowledge was lacking overseas ?



Understand that the risk in Kruger, compared to tropical areas of the world - especially Africa - is relatively low, and that the largest majority of visitors to Kruger have never contracted malaria! Therefore, most of the people on this forum will tell me that they have been going for decades and have never had malaria.

This does not mean, however, that someone, somewhere will not be unlucky in contracting the disease. If we delve deeper, there will be several mites who will testify that they know of people - family, extended family, colleagues, etc. - who have been unfortunate enough to have had malaria. Some of these people will also have died of malaria, for whatever reasons!

My SO had a family member who, having been to Kruger virtually six times every year for forty-odd years, and never ever took any malaria prophylaxis, sadly passed away after not getting treatment in time for the disease!

Then there was the case of the renowned retired Kuger National Park head game ranger, conservationist, and author, Bruce Bryden, who tragically died in May 2009 after contracting malaria on a fishing trip in Mozambique. Despite continually spraying himself with mosquito repellents, he was bitten and, though he later complained of flu-like symptoms and was admitted to hospital, it was too late and he succumbed to the deadly disease!


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I have not taken prophlaxis in the last 20 years ... besides at one place in the central district along a dry river course where there is a stagnant water pool from the borehole overflow - where we were advised to take prophylactics as a researcher who was there shortly prior to us had died a few weeks later after returning overseas - though perhaps the medical knowledge was lacking overseas ?


Though bodies of water obviously are where the mosquitoes like to frequent, one can still get bitten by a malaria-carrying mosquito in drier areas. Hence, all of Kruger is considered a seasonal malarial-risk area, and it is not appropriate to only take antimalarial prophylaxis because you are around areas where there are obvious bodies of water - waterholes, dams, pools, etc.

I don't know the details of the dead researcher that you mention, but many countries overseas that are free of malaria may not be sufficiently experienced to detect the disease promptly, or to initiate sufficient treatment timeously. Additionally, overseas people may delay by thinking it is only a flu or cold they have contracted, as the initial symptoms to malaria are similar.

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There will always be differing opinions as long as people are on this planet. That is a person's prerogative. However, decisions always have consequences - some benign, some more dire. Malaria is something where, if you are unlucky enough to contract the disease, and are unable to get appropriate treatment quickly enough, there is a good chance that death could be the end consequence.

My purpose here is to simply give people options, and to hopefully convey the more sensible ones; readers then understand that if they choose the more risky options, there may be a serious consequence. There may be, and there may not be. Some are lucky, some are not.

My suggestion is, if one can avoid putting oneself in harm's way, why not do so?!

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Hello to all those dry-season Malaria critics....

My folks were in KNP for the first two weeks of October and my mom has just found out that she has Malaria. She past-out at work yesterday after having severe cold-sweats and was shaking uncontrollably and was taken to hospital. She's feeling really horrible and is at home in bed. It's the only time she's been during this time of the year and not taken anti-malarials!

It should be a lesson to us all :rtm:

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Hi Gavinp,

I agree with Onewithnature that the risk is too high to take a baby to a malaria area.

The Kruger might not be that high risk malaria area, but what is the chance of a baby to fight the disease and survive. Most of malaria deaths are children under 5 years. See quote below from Redcross Malaria Day

"Malaria remains a killer disease with nearly 1 million people losing their lives every year. Eighty five per cent of deaths are children under 5 years of age".

My son is now 11 years old and we decided rather to visit other parks until he was 6 year old. Maybe we were over protective but rather save than sorry. Our friends on the other hand took their daughter, when she was 2 year old, to Mozambique in mid summer and she did not get any malaria. They visited the area frequently after building their own hut near Bilene and the children for the past 7 years never got malaria. Some are lucky and others not.


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Many people do take children to malarial areas, but I never took mine until she was 8 years old. Malaria is more difficult to initially establish in younger children, especially as they seldom can tell you exactly how they're feeling, and many people may think it is simply a flu or cold. Furthermore, the disease often progresses at a more rapid rate in young children, making early diagnosis and treatment all the more urgent!

If you do choose to take your young children into a malaria area, please ensure that they take antimalarial prophylaxis (if suitable for their age and condition), diligently use antimalarial nets and appropriate sprays and other non-drug antimalarial preventions! Know that the responsibility lies with you if you take your children into the malarial area.

After entering the malarial area, if the child (or anyone else from the malarial area!) develops flu-like symptoms (especially chills, fever, sweats, headache, fatigue, nausea and/or vomiting), immediately seek to have a malarial test and seek medical assistance! Even if it is several months after entering the malarial area, don't take any chances: do the test if in any doubt at all.

BE SMART, BE WISE, STAY ALIVE !!!


Disclaimer: My recommendations here - though based on some experience and some drug, and other, knowledge - are not absolute, and further consultation with suitable health-care professionals is suggested before a final decision is taken on whether to enter a malarial area, what prophylaxis to use, and any general factors and limitations that need to be taken into account. Furthermore, I only advise based on what information is given by the person(s) entering the malarial area, but I have no control on the information given to me, and so such information could possibly be incomplete or misleading. Moreover, people vary subjectively as to how they metabolise, and react to, drugs and other substances, which further accentuates that my suggestions here are only general suggestions, and therefore not to be taken as pertaining to every person alike.

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Sory but I'm going to step on some toe's :pray:
As both my wife and I being medical specialists we must then have been seriously ignorant and dof regarding risks. My son [20yrs] had his first visit at 16 days old for 2 weeks and my daughter[17yrs ] had her first visit at3 months old and ever since visiting at least 5-8 times a year.Nobody ever used malaria tablets and good old Tabard Peacefull sleep and in the rooms mozie mats protected us for all these years.
I stand amazed at all the old wife tails and urban legends!?
With a bit of lateral thinking you ask the qeustion how many thousands if not hundreds of thousand babies live in the eastern areas with the mozies and the heat!Yes there are many malaria cases but once again the studies tell the storie that in 98% of cases not a single type of precaution used!
In 21yrs of practice [x2 including my wife's practice] I had one malaria case from Kenya
referred to me because I do high risk obstetric manegment.At least once a month we hear of a fatal incident of one of our patients be it motor accident [99.9%] robbery etc



Many people are indeed ignorant, or sometimes unwise and insufficiently cautious (which usually stems from ignorance!) about the risks of malaria - and this traverses the entire range of people, from professionals to non-professionals, foreigners to locals, adults to teenagers, those in the know and those not! I've come across all types of people who prefer not to use antimalarial drug prophylaxis (known as chemoprophylaxis) for various reasons. Often, it is indeed not having sufficient knowledge about malaria, how to prevent it, the risks involved, how to suspect and diagnose it, and how to treat it. These people can then be sufficiently educated, whereupon their approach to malarial prevention (and, if necessary,

However - and this is what often amazes me - there are many people who know that malaria can kill - are sufficiently educated - yet they almost disdainfully ignore the risks!! :huh: Many, I believe, walk with that age-old fallacy: it will not happen to me! Poppycock!!

EVERYBODY WHO ENTERS A MALARIAL AREA IS AT RISK OF CONTRACTING MALARIA!!!

Sure, people have different responses to the disease - for instance, some have partial immunity and develop milder symptoms (but that is only partial immunity and does not guarantee them safety from death at the hands of this tragic killer!), some are immunocompromised (lowered immune system) and face higher risks (including young children and babies, those on chemotherapy, etc.), and some do not get infected with the most lethal and common strain, P. falciparum, but P. vivax, P. malariae, or P. ovale. Some people are even lucky enough not to get bitten by a single mosquito during their stay, and different people are bitten more than others in general.
However, everybody is at risk of contracting malaria when entering malarial area, and that is an important point to keep in mind. You may think you are protected because of your religious beliefs, or family history of no-one ever having contracted malaria, or whatever, but the bottom line is that malaria is still a rife killer in the world, and especially in children 5-years and younger! It is not about bravado, but caution and wisdom, that is essential!

Renervr, I understand that you and your wife, from a clinical perspective, have not seen cases of malaria (bar one referred) in over 40 combined years of practice. You are fortunate, but your two medical practices by no means determine the statistics of your province, let alone South Africa or the world! As medical professionals, you must know that malaria is lethal and that millions of people die from it annually! Lateral thinking does not even enter into the equations, as the only thing that must be of concern to all people is the tragic loss of life - the statistics - due to malarial infection. Many people who die of the disease are indigent and in remote areas of Africa, and so have little or no access to medical prophylaxis and/or treatment when they do get the disease! Relatively affluent people mostly do not live in high malaria risk areas, have access to knowledge and information, and can obtain treatment for the disease if needed! I have no idea where your practices are (were), but there seems little doubt that they were not in high-risk malarial areas and that you did not see many indigent, or poor, people who have come from high-risk areas.

You don't specify which malarial areas you took your infants to, but it is well to remember certain points pertaining thereto: there are low risk areas, there are high risk areas, and there are very high risk areas; many seasonal risk areas in South Africa had a lower incidence of (reported) malaria cases twenty or more years ago, and recent evidence suggests that the amount of people contracting malaria in seasonal risk areas in Southern Africa (e.g. Kruger) has increased of late - therefore, higher risk now than then; and, if anyone of you (especially the children) had been unlucky enough to contract malaria, your attitudes towards the disease would almost definitely have been different.

One final, and very important, point that needs to be made, and which is unequivocal, Renervr: you have declared yourselves to be medical professionals - specialists at that; remember that people then will look up to you as authorities on medical conditions and their treatments.

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I stand amazed at all the old wife tails and urban legends!?

Not quite sure what you mean by this? :huh: If you're saying that you "stand amazed at all the old wife tails (sic) and urban legends!?" because malaria is not a serious disease, then this would have no founding in research and fact! Many people contract malaria and/or die from the disease because their knowledge base is insufficient or they choose to be irresponsible in the face of the risks. This is no exaggeration either as millions of people do die from a combination of insufficient information, insufficient knowledge, insufficient caution, insufficient awareness, insufficient diagnosis, and insufficient treatment!

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With a bit of lateral thinking you ask the qeustion how many thousands if not hundreds of thousand babies live in the eastern areas with the mozies and the heat!Yes there are many malaria cases but once again the studies tell the storie that in 98% of cases not a single type of precaution used!

I'm not sure what areas you are referring to when you say the "eastern areas"? :huh: If you are talking about the eastern areas of South Africa, then yes, there is a relatively low risk of anyone, including babies, contracting malaria - relative to high risk areas like Mozambique or tropical Africa! Still, these facts mean that babies and adults alike nevertheless do get malaria - which may be increasing in infection-frequency and fatalities - and this does not warrant suggesting that the disease is not as serious as it is known to be! Every exposure to a mosquito in a malarial area is a potential risk of contracting malaria - for everybody!

Please do not make unfounded statements unless you have researched the topic sufficiently! Opinions are one thing, and personal clinical "evidence" another. However, malaria is not about opinions, but facts, and people's awareness of the serious, and often fatal, consequences of the disease must not be diluted by inaccurate observations and insufficient research and clinical evidence!



Disclaimer: My recommendations here - though based on some experience and some drug, and other, knowledge - are not absolute, and further consultation with suitable health-care professionals is suggested before a final decision is taken on whether to enter a malarial area, what prophylaxis to use, and any general factors and limitations that need to be taken into account. Furthermore, I only advise based on what information is given by the person(s) entering the malarial area, but I have no control on the information given to me, and so such information could possibly be incomplete or misleading. Moreover, people vary subjectively as to how they metabolise, and react to, drugs and other substances, which further accentuates that my suggestions here are only general suggestions, and therefore not to be taken as pertaining to every person alike.

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Bundi wrote:
Think about it this way: Are there no babies being born and raised in any malaria areas around the world? What do they do?

To be blunt, they die.

WHO wrote:
Malaria is especially a serious problem in Africa, where one in every five (20%) childhood deaths is due to the effects of the disease. An African child has on average between 1.6 and 5.4 episodes of malaria fever each year. And every 30 seconds a child dies from malaria

Source: www.who.int/features/factfiles/malaria/en/index.html

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When was the last time any infant or grown up passed away from malaria contracted in the Kruger?


There have been far too many people!! :cry: :cry: Have you heard of Bruce Bryden? I myself came across someone less than two months ago! Many, many more have been ill from malaria - even some families of forumites. Just ask around.

Take it in perspective - sure - but don't become one of the statistics through ignorance and unfounded bravado!!! :pray:

I just want to add on to what onewithnature comment. I do not have any first hand experience on malaria, but made use of media to gain knowledge. We also followed the same approach than Mrs P and it will not difficult to implement. There are lots of game reserves in malaria free area in KZN and Limpopo to visit if you stay in Gauteng. :D

I found the following attachment from allafrica.com quite interesting. :big_eyes: The area discussed is west of Kruger, which place nothern Kruger in the same risk area. Another point is that the government protects people by spraying their houses with pesticides in malaria epidemic areas, but I am not sure if Kruger practice the same during summer season. :roll: The news clip is from Jan 2010; the last rainy season I could get info on. This news article points out the real risk of malaria in Kruger, allthough not mention but all areas in the article borders on Kruger or is very close.

Malaria Cases Climb in Limpopo
Sydney Masinga
11 January 2010

Polokwane — More than 156 cases of malaria have been confirmed in the high-risk areas of Vhembe and Mopani in Limpopo during the first week of January 2010.
Spokesperson for the Limpopo Department of Health and Social Development Selby Makgotho said four deaths from malaria-related complications were also confirmed during the last week of December.
"To date, the province has recorded a total of 1 120 malaria cases since the beginning of the rainy season.
The majority of these cases were reported in known malaria-risk areas in Limpopo, namely the northeastern parts of the Vhembe district and the eastern parts of Mopani, which includes Giyani and Ba-Phalaborwa," said Makgotho.
He added that although a higher number of cases had been reported over the past two weeks, it had not reached epidemic levels.
"But the department views the increase in a serious light and all efforts are being made to contain it and adequately deal with those patients already infected with the malaria parasite. Systems are also in place to monitor the reported cases on a daily basis and to respond to further increases," he said.
Makgotho advised Limpopo residents to seek medical attention as soon as they suspected they had malaria.
"It should be noted that malaria, when diagnosed in time, can be treated and cured fully. For this reason, we continue to urge communities to immediately consult their nearest health facilities for malaria tests if they experience flu-like symptoms such as body pains, headaches and fever," Makgotho said.
He said the department had 42 malaria teams in the province which were busy with a malaria indoor residual spraying campaign.
"This campaign, which is one of the major malaria control interventions in the province, aims to spray all the inside walls of houses in high-risk areas to contain the spread and transmission of malaria," said Makgotho.
The teams have completed the spraying of more than 680 000 houses during the current spraying campaign, which started in September 2009.
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Bundi wrote:

Let me rephrase by saying this: When was the last time any infant or grown up passed away from malaria contracted in the Kruger?

Have a read of the posts by Wildtuinman in this thread, especially about the one where he had both his wife and infant daughter in intensive care at the same time. Then go and read the last few posts in this very thread, where 'mites are sending best wishes to a member's mother after she recently contracted malaria in Kruger.
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My point is that too much are being made from contracting malaria in Kruger,

I think what we are trying to do is point out that there is a risk of malaria and point out the options and precautions to take
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but I am not discarding the fact that it is a threat and I wish everybody a safe December holidays.

And the same to you, have a [safe] holiday. :lol: :lol:

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Hi Bundi

Yes, NON-DRUG ANTIMALARIAL MEASURES (antimalarial and anti-insect sprays, netting, mosquito and insect mats, UV-lights, burning repellant coils, etc.) are essential in preventing contraction of the dreaded disease that kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. Malaria is not a joke and I see that you are one of the few who understand its consequences!

Yes, the risk of malaria in Southern Africa [excluding areas such as Mozambique; parts of northern Zimbabwe; and possibly northern Botswana and the Caprivi Strip, as these areas are high risk)] as compared to, for example, Central Africa and other areas south of the Sahara that are in the Tropics, is very much lower! Most of the population of South Africa live in non-malarial areas. So, indeed, the risk in seasonal risk areas, is mostly low.

However, I believe that, as most people fail to take adequate non-drug measure prevention, and many more fail to take chemoprophylaxis (antimalarial drugs) when it is recommended, it is far safer to not tell people that the risk is low. The last thing we want is for people contracting malaria when it was easily preventable! Based on this, I always err on the side of caution and recommend the best prophylaxis (including chemoprophylaxis when it is suggested by the authorities) for an area. Most people are indeed ignorant of the risk and consequences of malaria, so this route is the wisest!

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I have been following this topic with a lot of interest. many different view points coming across.

In my opinion I feel that every parent should simply ask the question;

If we take every possible precaution and my child contracts malaria and dies - can I live with myself?


Even if the odds are one in a billion chance of contracting malaria - what if your child is that one in a billion?

We all take precautions against accidents - but they still happen -
We all take precautions to protect our homes - there are still break ins,violence and murder

Just my thoughts on the subject.

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I think the last couple of posts is getting us much closer to the right awnser.Yes malaria is real in kruger and if you are not comfortable dont put your children at risk and stay clear.If like me you feel you are just as safe in the park than any otherplace in south africa then go and do all you can to protect your children and yourself.You cant always run from everything in life

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A heated topic indeed! :redface:

So let me jump in here too. Being a medical professional - and travel health advisor - I have had this discussion over and over with people. To keep it simple:

1. KNP is a high risk malaria area during Sept through to May. ANTIMALARIAL CHEMOPROPHYLAXIS IS ADVISED DURING THIS PERIOD. Together with non-drug measures - which are applicable throughout the year.

This is a fact. It has not been thumb-sucked by someone - it is scientifically based. (And determined looking at the risk of contracting malaria at that time in that area vs the risk of serious side effects from the antimalarial drugs)

Take the advise or leave it - but at least make the decision knowing the facts. If you then decide not to take antimalarials and you do get malaria - it was because of your decision, and not because you were misinformed.

It is the same as taking any other precautionary measure - taking blood pressure tablets if you have high blood pressure, or wearing a seatbelt if you're in a car. Nobody forces you to do it. It's just common sense to use precautions if they are available to decrease your risk...

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There are indeed very brave parents in this country.

For me personally, not almost worth the risk to be selfish to go on a Kruger holiday and risk losing my most precious belonging. Never in a million years.

MALARIA kills more children in Africa than anything else!

Furthermore. The difference between getting in to a car and going to a mall and having to go to Kruger is plain and simple. You do not have to go to Kruger. Yes, unfortunately you have to drive and go out and buy food and other necessities. So the comparisons some are making here are not in the least valid.

Will you dress your child in a bulletproof vest and send him/her out to go pat a lion? Now why on earth would you introduce an under 5 year old to the most deadliest decease EVER in Africa? Doesn't make any sense.

Waiting for 5 years for your child to be old enough to visit Kruger is a very small price to pay before having to bury a young child.

I guess in having lost my mom, two brothers and now having a very ill dad just taught me to guard the life of a loved one as best as possible. You never know what you missing before it is too late.

Never ever think or say that it won't happen to you.

Crazy stuff. :doh:

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