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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:53 am 
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Rhino are actively being managed already. SANParks is the source for many private and provincial reserves where rhino has been re-established in their former range.

A big nature conservation success story. :thumbs_up:

Regarding rhino numberssee HERE.

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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:11 pm 
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Thanx a lot Imberbe :thumbs_up:

Seeing your post on the census is actually what finally got me around to start the topic.
I am sure the SANParks are doing their best to manage their numbers, as was the case with elephants. And even if they are translocating rhinos, I would be surprised if the kept up with the current growth rate.
Maybe this will be a more interesting subject in 10 years time. But I still would love to know what their carrying capacity is and if they would out compete other herbivores.

Either way I am sure management has studied this - it would be interesting to see what they have come up with.
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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
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You are quoting white rhino numbers? A great success story re; nature conservation!.
Though what about the black rhino. To my knowledge this one was even more extinct.
Any info on them O dog. Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
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Promising stuff for sure and a far cry from the scenario not that long ago. Probably still a long way off a maximum carrying capacity within KNP but that would be big thumb suck and not backed up with any facts. WR have always preferred the south by far but it was nice to see them in good numbers right up to Satara area. As for BR, sad to say they will stay a problem mainly I guess because of their fairly strictly solitary nature -------


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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
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Hey H.e

I am no expert on Black Rhino (or White for that matter) but a couple of things I do know are that the White Rhino was closer to extinction with the last remaining population occurring in the Natal area of South Africa - this was around the 60's. The Black Rhino also got close to extinction but being more widespread it hasn't been as threatened with extinction at any one time as the white. These days Black Rhino are more endangered and certain populations are under real threat throughout Africa.
In terms of Black Rhino numbers in KNP, I have heard thatanywhere between 300-500. Interestingly though, 2 years ago in the Sabi Sands, the odd Black Rhino was seen every few years, mostly close to the southern border with the KNP. In the last year or so there have been quite a few sightings close to the Eastern Border with the KNP showing that if not an increase in number, there seems to be an increase in range.
I know that there are also populations of BR in Addo and MZNP and in Hluhluwe and other Natal Parks there are decent numbers. In Hluhluwe I saw 4 different BR in 10 or so days.
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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
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Could some experts tell us why the WR are doing so well while the BR numbers remains very low. Can it be that BR"s, because of their choice of habitat, are more difficult to count than the WR, and that there maybe more than what the official census has picked up?

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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
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Not an expert ... but.

Remember that Black rhino (1972) was introduced in to KNP much later than white rhino (1960), and I suspect that lower numbers was introduced because there were less animals available to be introduced.

So the population is building from a much lower base than the white rhino, and has had less time to expand.

But what I have heard is that the black rhino is indeed busy expanding their range within KNP, now often being seen in areas where they weren't seen previously.

I also think that your last observation has a lot of merit, since they do keep to more enclosed habitat, where you will often see white rhino standing in open grass lands. But I do not think that this has such a major impact that the numbers will be severely underestimated.

As for suitable habitat. :hmz: Here we would need a real expert. I suspect that with the low numbers of black rhino in KNP this should not yet be a major factor. Maybe the type of plant material that is common in KNP is not ideal (?), but there is more than enough bush for them to keep to.

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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
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Now that you mention it I can vaguely remember something like that Imberbe.
Have seen Br but they seem very skittish and therefore don't stay around very long.

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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino Problem??
Unread postPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:30 pm 
Hey, o-dog!

Here's a copy of my thumbsuck under "Mammal Census":

White rhino are steadily expanding their range Northwards, and have saturated the South, where excess numbers are being translocated/sold at great speed by SANPARKS, although that avenue will also eventually dry up, and we will be in uncharted territory again...

I suspect they will push each other out of the Park, and kill each other a lot more as territories fill up, or genetic inbreeding may begin to take its toll, as the original gene pool for Kruger white rhino is severely limited!

No-one knows...


The black rhino include genes from both KZN and Kenya, and Zimbabwe, so that may be a positive factor... :hmz:

Although the Blacks are difficult to count, their steady expansion Northward would obviously be a good sign! :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Rhino with long horn
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We saw this rhino with very long horn today . It's a female and was in company of a bull and also a younger rhino , probably her calf . Certainly the longest horn I have seen on a rhino in KNP .
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 Post subject: Re: Rhino with long horn
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Nice sighting okie!!! :thumbs_up: I am just glad you did not mention where you saw it, I am sure these murderous thugs that poach them would be there in a flash. :naughty:


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 Post subject: Re: Rhino with long horn
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Indeed ! I understand that her movements are being monitored by Sanparks , and hopefully she could be fitted with a tracking collar ? :pray:

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 Post subject: Re: Rhino with long horn
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Great sighting and what an impressive horn - good to hear that she is being monitored. :thumbs_up:


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I know this female - saw her a number of times!

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 Post subject: Re: White Rhino
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Here are some old pics (sorry, they're terrible quality and scanned), but they're of a group of 22 white rhino - some were in the road, some off in the veld to the left and some out towards the right!! It was hard to capture all of them, but here are some shots!! It was in about 2000 (was one of the most amazing rhino sightings we've ever had!)


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