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 Post subject: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Good evening.

We are leaving for KNP on Thursday 15 August. We are leaving Pretoria at about 05:00. This should get us to either Malelane ot Phabeni Gate at about 11:00.

I have heard that there are some serious roadworks on the N4 - Schoemans Kloof and The Gorge outside Nelspruit.

Has anyone been on this road very recently?

I could also take the R540 - Belfast - Dullstroom - Lydenburg - Sabie - Hazyview - Phabeni gate. 175kms.
Phabeni gate to Crocodile Bridge is 108 kms so can easily make it before closing time.

Has anyone been on this road very recently?

Belfast to Malelane using N4 is 177kms by my rough calculations so not much of a difference.

Any feedback or advice will be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Not very recently but in May I took the Ngodwana road to miss Schoemanskloof and found it to be in good condition and not too busy either - perhaps I just got lucky, but both ways was mid-week and mid-morning. There are quite a few passing places now and I had good journeys. If you go that way take the Nelspruit bypass.

I did Dullstroom-Lydenburg in November to Phalaborwa and it wasn't bad, they were patching holes at the time. Just watch out for new town names on the signs and no indication of the old names. I took the wrong road a couple of times.


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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Don't know about Schoemanskloof, but the last time I went through to Nelspruit the stop-go boards gave an expected time delay of up to 20mins which is not too bad. In actual fact I had no delay at all as I caught both ways at the exact right time!

Roadworks outside Komatipoort are worse though....if going to Crocodile Bridge watch for the yellow sign advising KNP routes to turn left off the N4.....and then don't miss the right turn further down that road or you will find yourself in Marloth Park! Travelled that detour today and it is good.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Schoemanskloof had 3 stop-goes in July that lasted each +- 20min so an hour delay, we too the Waterval Boven road which was full of trucks. I don't know the other roads. Prefer to drive roads I know :thumbs_up:
You can always go in @ Phabeni and drive the 130km to CB through the Park (bigger chances of having great sightings :w: )

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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My advice will be to go through Schoemanskloof. Endure the 3 stop go's. It's not that bad. The biggest problem is the roadworks at Komatipoort. Either enter KNP at Malelane or take the chance with the roadworks at Komatipoort. DON'T use the Dullstroom Lydenburg road. That road is BAD, VERY BAD!!!! Enjoy it.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Done the route to kruger 3 times in the last month, do prefer waterval boven route above all the stop and goes of schoemanskloof.

Worst stop and go between nelspruit and malelane, but you might be lucky.

Returned from numbi gate yesterday afternoon via waterval boven, took us 3.5 hours to pretoria east (did not stop though, kids were tired form the early morning game drives!)

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Thanks very much chirinda, ecojunkie,Heksie, Hansie 11 and wbevents for your comments and advice.

Pity about Dullstroom - Lydenburg being in such a bad condition. Would have loved to do that route for a change.

I think I will stick to N4 to Nelspruit and then up to Phabeni Gate and back down to Crocodile Bridge.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Drove from Malelane to Nelspruit today. The gorge road is a bit slow because of roadworks, but the surface is good with no potholes and there are no worries about cows/goats/dogs on the road. The stop/go (at the Nelspruit side of the gorge) quoted delays of up to 30mins, but I waited 10mins on the way out and about 5mins on the way back (at the end of a long queue).

If time is a problem then I would still choose to go that way, and then take the detour round Komatipoort, which again is a good road.

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Thanks very much ecojunkie for this up to date report. If we do go through Nelspruit we will go in at Malelane so as not to miss a kilometre of being in Kruger.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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I have done these roads a number of times in the past few weeks.

Usual favourite = Schoemanskloof - avoid at the moment! Road works!

If you really want to do the N4 then do the Waterval Boven route. But yes you will hit trucks all the way and road works past Nelspruit.

At the moment I prefer the alternate route:
- Take the N4.
- Go past Belfast turn off and past Milly's.
- Turn in to Machado dorp.
- In Machado dorp head towards Badplaas. (R541)
- At the T-junction on the Badplaas / Baberton road turn left towards Baberton. (R38)
- Go over Nelshoogte (Spectacular views)
- Head all the way to Baberton but bypass the town centre by not turning in to the town but keeping straight past the main entry. (Decorated rocks, etc.)
- At the 4way stop at the back of town turn left towards Komatipoort/Malelane/N4 (Still R 38)
- You re-join the N4 at the T-junction at Kaap Muiden just before the toll gate.
- Turn right in to the N4 towards Malelane / Komatipoort

No road works!

It is a good road and not busy. It is not much longer than the N4 but you do drive slower because it is more winding.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Thanks for this very detailed alternative route Imberbe.

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 Post subject: Re: Which route Pretoria to Crocodile Bridge
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Are there still roadworks? I will be travelling to Ngwenya lodge in a few days time and was wondering what would be the best route for me as well from Newcastle. Any sugesstions?


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