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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:15 am 
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Safari Gal wrote:
No Cattle Baron in Nelspruit or anywhere else in Mpumalanga or Limpopo


This is more worrying :o


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:26 am 
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I don't find it worrying at all,
they are a well established name in many other parts of the country. :thumbs_up:

http://www.cattlebaron.co.za/home_page.htm

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:42 am 
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pops wrote:
Koen Koen Koen How can you do this to people. Is your tongue permanently stuck in your cheek? No sooner do they seem to have you in a corner then you go on another tack. :naughty:

Great reading tho.


This isn't about me or even the other posters on this forum or me versus anyone else or even franchises in general. :( This is about the Kruger. :thumbs_up: Wish people could try and keep an eye on this point.

Surely every aspect of preserving the Kruger is worth discussing in this context.

I find it puzzling that one or two people here feel fluffed up about my opinions simply because they are not their own.

Im not telling anyone they can't love M&B or anything they choose to eat. Its a free world out there. :P


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Elsa wrote:
I don't find it worrying at all,
they are a well established name in many other parts of the country. :thumbs_up:

http://www.cattlebaron.co.za/home_page.htm


The food looks jummy by the way :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Still looking forward to that M & B Chicken and Avo wrap while looking out over the river at Letaba Olifants and Lower Sabie, a hearty Wimpy breakfast at Satara, and a juicy steak at the Cattle Baron in Skukza!! :whistle:

There really is no point in speculating about any of this.................it is a done deal, and it seems the vast majority of people who have commented here, welcome the changes.

Those that object to these franchises (and that is their right of course, in a democracy) can self-cater.

By the remote chance that there are problems with any of these establishments.......then we can discuss it here, as and when it happens, and SANParks I'm sure will listen to our concerns, and look into it. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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No, I really can't imagine that there would be too many folk who would consider driving into the park, paying the conservation fees just to eat at a specific restaurant chain.
but its a done deal and time will only tell so lets cross that bridge when we come to it. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Elsa, I was just typing exactly the same thing regarding cost of petrol, cons levies, toll fees etc. Much easier and cheaper to just head to the local Spur.
Cattle Baron means absolutely nothing to people in the surrounding areas as there are none in the province :?

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Elsa wrote:
No, I really can't imagine that there would be too many folk who would consider driving into the park, paying the conservation fees just to eat at a specific restaurant chain.

Yup, maybe a few people who live in Hazyview would want to go and check it out in the beginning, but I really don't see enough people being willing to pay conservation fees on top of their lunch, often enoush, to make a difference to the ambiance in the park. I'm sure there are other good steakhouses in Hazyview - ones where you don't have to leave before sunset!

But I guess if you look hard enough, you will always find something negative...

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Indeed given the excitement on this thread about something as ordinary as a wrap I just hope people wont be seeing Skakusa as a "strip mall"*** ignoring the park and its function completely bringing with it the usual problems of irresponsible visitors.


Assuming that I DID take it out of context, please put it in context and explain the statement I quoted above. Especially clarify who, if not the people who express excitement about these restaurants on this thread or their children, do you think will start seeing Skukuza as a strip mall?


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Koen wrote:
Im not entirely sure these franchises are even going to do well enough to be around very long.


Ermm... :| :hmz:

I see many posters stating they long for the old days of good food and full restaurants. Now SANParks are trying to return to the days of good food. Once that is in place it is logical to expect the full restaurants to return as well. When you factor in that more international visitors are visiting than in the past, that would surely mean that the potential foot traffic for these establishments are there.

Regarding the local suppliers, whilst it would be wonderful for SANParks to help every local supplier, it is not feasible. Sometimes the produce might not be up to standard, it might be too expensive. I think SANParks is trying to learn from past mistakes it has made. Give them a chance.

With regards to the menus, as per this draft document, here (page 77), the menu has to be at least 90% similar to the outside franchises. So this would leave some wiggle room for new items, but when you see Wimpy at Satara, you can expect Wimpy. Same goes for Mugg and Bean and the rest. This is only a draft agreement and the final agreements might be different for each different restaurant.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Koen wrote:
A handful of people here seem happy and that's absolutely fine, I dont have anything to say to them but enjoy.

For others of us we are keeping half an eye on the fact that there is still a full on conference hotel in the planning.........

Unfortunately perhaps it's all happening in the South an area where there is a high concentration of game the area we should be most serious in protecting.

I myself would be far happier if the franchise operations were outside the park and so would a lot of other conservation minded people. We are fully entitled to that opinion and to be concerned about Kruger developments.


:clap: well said Koen
Unfortunately I don’t get to self cater all the time, so will have to make use of the restaurants

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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There are restaurants in Kruger at the moment, so I can't for the life of me think why restaurants with a different name like Wimpy are going to effect the park so badly :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Me neither :hmz:
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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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I think we've all had our say and we know where we all stand on the issue. There is really nothing more to be gained by repeating the same old stuff.

As Les's post indicates, SANParks are monitoring the comments made and I'm sure they are going to be monitoring the transition to the new structure very closely.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Sara, I was just thinking the same thing!!! :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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I have been asked to stop voicing my opinions on the matter of the commercialisation of the Kruger Park.

End of debate. :thumbs_up: :| :?


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