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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
Unread postPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:57 am 
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Agree with Heksie and WildThing - give the franchises a chance but if you really want a traditional SA meal - light the fire and chuck some meat on it!

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Really doubt they will be changing the menu's, these are franchises, so what you get in 1 you get in all.
It is how their recipe works and how they manage to keep costs down.
Am not sure the other branches of Wimpy/ M&B would be happy if one franchise gets preferential treatment over another.

I am happy they are here, the quality of food has been poor for ages.
I just want a quick meal at a reasonable price when I need it, most of time I self cater.
The traffic should be no more than is current, a vehicle services the existing restaurant and a vehicle will service these.
Littering is a people problem not a restaurant/ take away problem.
I have always seen enough bins in camps.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Okay maybe I shouldn’t have, but I couldn’t resist :think:

I got the following of Mugg & Bean’s website relating to Franchising
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http://www.themugg.com/franchising.php#18

Do I have to purchase my product supplies from specified suppliers?
Certain licensed products are compulsory from specified suppliers.

What control do I have over my menu?
The concept of Mugg & Bean and its specialty items allows no discretion to franchisees in determining the menu for a restaurant.
Menus are updated at least twice per annum and menu items are reviewed and prices re-evaluated by the Mugg & Bean brand team prior to new menu implementation.

As per earlier post, there is no point in speculating weather they will alter the menu for Kruger or not
(I’m keeping my fingers crossed that they don’t change a thing)

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Thanks for the important information RemieE. :thumbs_up:

The implications for this are astounding. Local producers will not benifit at all as the supply lines are completely fixed by licensed M&B suppliers. This makes sense as they are on contract already.

Despite this rather shocking information I think M&B will actualy rethink their Kruger menus for the franchise holders in the Kruger. They dont want their names associated with failing franchises so Im sure they will go all out to make it a Kruger experience. Believe you me the consumer has the power over any success.

Im sure this will be discussed indepth in great detail elsewhere, but it is very important information. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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But M&B franchise success is due to the consumer being able to go into any branch and know what to expect. Hence if I am in Kruger, I know that I will get the same product from this M&B as the one I have around the corner from my house. The consumer has made this brand a success, it does not help the fanchise if they get a different product at one place to what they get at another.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Safari Gal wrote:
Anything can ONLY be an improvement on what has been on offer before, so lets welcome it and judge only once they are operational.


Well said Safari Gal :clap: :clap: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I am sure that even now supplies are not purchased from the local businesses and come from farther afield. I dont know of anyone in our area who supply Kruger?

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Do we have access to the official agreement between SANParks and the franchises?

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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saraf wrote:
I think Koen is trying to say that if you are getting supplies from one source there is no room for local businesses to prosper from being near the parks and doing business there. Which I agree is a worry, especially as SANParks have a mandate to help local communities.


Yes exactly.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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I see it says licensed supplies have to be bought from specified suppliers, but other goods can be sourced elsewhere. I read this as saying, there are supplies that will be bought locally.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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RobertT wrote:
I see it says licensed supplies have to be bought from specified suppliers, but other goods can be sourced elsewhere. I read this as saying, there are supplies that will be bought locally.


Yes I magine that applies to detergents, toilet paper and other unlicensed products not M&B. Which wouldn't exactly help locals very much.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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They advertise special coffees, certain flavours of drinks, etc, and these are things that I am sure they want standard everywhere and thus would be 'licensed products'. But eggs, for example, I suspect can be purchased anywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Koen, I do hope your predictions don't happen, I really think they are extreme, these franchise outlets are sure to have done their homework before tendering and have all their ducks in a row regarding management and all that goes with running these restaurants

As I have said before,I feel this is a big step up from the current restaurants, let's be more positive and give them a fair chance

I for one am looking forward to eating at all of them when we are in Kruger :dance: :dance:

By the way I see on the menu's they do serve other things not just Wraps, so you don't have to go to Kruger and have a wrap if you don't want to

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