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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:17 pm 
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Has anybody been to the Wimpy at Pretoriuskop as yet??? We are leaving in two weeks (yeah!!!! :dance: :dance: :dance: ) and staying at Pretoriuskop. Would like to know if they are up and running and what the menu and service is like.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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AKSmit, we've been there two weeks ago and yes, they are up and running now. Regarding menu and service, you can expect the same as with any other Wimpy in any other place. So in general, no fine dining experience but the food is decent (and decently priced) and you get it quickly - nothing to complain about and leaving sentiment aside, IMHO a vast improvement on what we had before.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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I think you will be pleasantly surprised AKSmit - we were there a few weeks ago & I definitely was. I do NOT frequent Wimpy in general but I think you & especially your kids will love it. I had fruit salad with yoghurt which is something I have tried to have EVERYWHERE in Kruger and use it as a test of the quality of the restaurants in general - It was one of the best I have ever had. The restaurant was clean and the service was good


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Please would someone patiently :) post which camps have which new restaurants.
I have gone back quite a few pages and see that Mugg & Bean are in Satara and Letaba. Who is in Olifants and Berg-en-Dal. Also which camps have a Debonairs.
Are all the picnic sites still run the same as when we were there 3 years ago?

Thank you for saving me having to go back through 190 posts …… I appreciate it.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
Unread postPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:32 pm 
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Elsa wrote:
Safarigal, M & B are at Lower Sabie, Satara, Letaba and Olifants.
As far as I know the only Debonairs is at Satara as well.
Wimpy is at Pretoriuskop and B & D have the same franchise as the one at Mopani.
Skukuza will close at the end of this month and start the construction and refurbishment for a Cattle Baron.
Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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So, what will be the eating options @ Skukuza


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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At the other restaurants that have been renovated they have had a "bush kitchen" selling some basic meals. Skukuza used to be set up with a facility to cook boerwors etc, similar to Tshokwane, I'm not sure if that is still going.

Unfortunately Selati is closed due to the pending court case and we have no indication of when it will open.

The shop at Skukuza is a big one and does sell sandwiches and salads. And there is a small kiosk at the Skukuza Day Visitor area.

Other renovations have taken between 6-8 weeks to complete.

I will try and get some idea of the arrangements and timescales.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Trigger, Satara has a Mugg& bean restaurant and a Mugg & Bean to go take aways, they also have a debonairs pizza outlet

Lower Sabie has a Mugg & Bean restaurant and a Mugg & Bean to go

CB does not have a restaurant but do have a shop where you can get toasted sandwiched

Afsaal and Tshokwane still serve lovely breakfasts and other meals and take aways

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Sometimes a person read about the good and sometimes a person read about the not so good for the new restaurants. Is it the logistics, the environment, the set up or are the Kruger visitors unrealistic? I do not know what it is.

My guess is that the logistics and the remoteness of the camps have something to do with it. When they run out of stock they cannot quickly obtain or stock up on fresh supplies as they are removed from the larger towns and cities. What makes it even more complicated is that they use fresh produce and perishables and Kruger is generally hot to very hot in terms of the weather.

Is it then realistic to expect the same from a M&B situated in a air-conditioned shopping mall with fresh deliveries a few times per day as from the M&B in Satara that is in a wilderness area that is far removed from the temperature controlled supply chain?

We were in Satara in May and had good food and service at the M&B. The network for the cards also went down and someone immediately did the rounds to inform the customers. I guess in addition to the logistical challenges they have to deal with unstable/unreliable network connections as Kruger is in the Nature away from human settlements where the banking systems are.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Crested Val wrote:
vanzylkarl wrote:
Hi all,

Why do we need these overpriced pretentious restaurants in Kruger?
Overall very dissapointed with the restaurants. And you cant even have a beer with your meal as they dont have liquor licences.

Not good.


On the flip side, we recently had excellent meals at Lower Sabie and Satara, and by the way all Mugg and Beans have a liquor licence..............I had a lekker dry white wine with both meals. :dance:

Sorry you were disappointed. :cry:


Mugg and Bean in Olifants does NOT have a liquor licence. unless they got one and stocked the place in the last 4 days.....


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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squirrel_asc wrote:
They opened withing the last month. It takes forever to get liquor licenses these days (Blame Government for that, not M&B).

Oh, and we always make sure we take enough cash, since we know the communications networks are unstable. It's in the middle of the bush, after all...


They were awarded the rights a year ago. It does not take that long to get a liquor licence. I blame M&B for poor planning. But either way, the liquor licence is not the issue. its the poor service received. Do I as a paying customer that travelled over 2000km to get to Kruger have the right to complain about poor service and sub standard food provided at a high price on a public forum? I think so.

And as for the networks in the bush, once again, get a fixed line card machine. Even if its only as a backup. This is not brain surgery people. Its simple economics and providing for your customers needs. If there was competition in the park, then we might see a different level of service.


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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Very sorry you experienced bad service and food Vanzylkarl, from our feed back that seems to not be the norm.
Have your sent in a complaint to the Head Office. http://www.themugg.com/contact.php

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Crested Val wrote:
Carol, I am relieved to hear that, I thought I was going dippy!! :lol: :lol:

We definitely had a drink with our meal there at Satara, and at Lower Sabie.

The Olifants M & B was not open then, so I can't comment on that. :thumbs_up:

No Val not Dippy, :lol: :lol: I remember how nice the wine and the food was, also had the same at LS

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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Africanskyblue wrote:
The cattle baron was already open at the main restaurant.


Is this correct? Has the Cattle Baron already opened at Skukuza?

I was there a few weeks ago and it was still the "old" restaurant.

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 Post subject: Re: New Franchises for Restaurants from 1 December.
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No, it was still the old restaurant as I went and spoke to one of the staff in June.
They are due to close the restaurants at the end of this month for the refurbishment.

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