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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:58 pm 
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Some of these "roads" are mere firebreaks.

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:57 am 
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Story told to my dad many years ago by the Vlakteplaas ranger of then :

On one of his routine drives he saw a car in the distance on one of the no entry roads. As he didn't know of anyone else that should be there, he desided to investigate. To his surprise he found an elderly lady (in her late 60's) in a small hatch back car. Upon inquiring why she was there, her reply was : I have been driving on the main road and dirt roads for 2 days now and haven't seen anything. I know that you are hinding all the animals on these roads.

He asked if she had seen many animals on the no entry road, and it seemed to dawn on her that she hadn't. He escorted her to the main road as she had no idea of where she was and kindly asked her to stay of the no entry roads in future.

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 Post subject: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:11 am 
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During a recent visit to the KNP during June 2013 we "lost" two superior sighting down No-Entry Roads. :wall:

Early one morning we had turned down to a dam off the S28 and came across a pride pf lions confronting a Civet. After about 10 minutes witnessing an Epic Battle... the Civet ran down a No-Entry Road with the Lions in tow.

Another occasion saw us find the Skukuza Pack of Wild Dogs between the Causeways and we followed then until they disappeared down another No-Entry Road!!! ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!

What to do?

What do you all suggest?

Follow the sighting or call it a day?

We were good on both occasions and did not follow... both times we were the only vehicle and could easily have pulled an illegal move...

Would one get into serious trouble following these once in a life time opportunities?


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 Post subject: Re: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:29 am 
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Yes, you would have been fined heavily if caught.

There are good reasons for no entry roads. Some lead to the section ranger's house and apart from privacy issues, access is required 24 hours a day so they can get to emergencies. Most of the roads are single track so imagine having to negotiate a parked vehicle when you need to get somewhere quickly, say to a report of a fire or poaching incident.

Another is that they aren't well maintained and should you damage your vehicle a) you wouldn't be insured b) you may well be stuck there for a while as there won't be much traffic to rescue you.

So sorry, you just have to shrug and say "ah well" and be thankful you saw anything at all.

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 Post subject: Re: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
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Hi, SeanP

Please stick to the tourists' roads. The No-Entry roads are meant for management purposes and not for tourists. Most of this roads are fragile and require to be rehabilitated everytime a vehicle drives on them. We understand how important this sightings are to you but driving on a management road is prohibited in the park. With the current scourge of rhino poaching we will discourage people from using No- Entry roads at all costs. Finding yourself in a place you are not suppose to might be difficult to convince rangers and soldiers that you were after a sighting.

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 Post subject: Re: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
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We as a family are too scared to go down a "No entry" road, firstly we don't want to be caught and secondly we never know what is waiting for us further down the road, maybe our vehicle will get stuck or we might come across something that we are not supposed to see. Just be satisfied with your part of the sighting that you did see and move on.........the Kruger never ever disappoints......................... :roll: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
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As tempting as it was... common sense prevailed... Thank you for all of your responses Mites! :tongue:


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 Post subject: Re: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
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Wise words from Sara and Stephens.................NO ENTRY means just that!!!! :rtm: :rtm:

Having said that Sean, I am not unsympathetic to you losing good sightings!!! :cry: :cry:

All credit to you for doing the right thing!!!! :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: To Enter or Not to Enter-The No Entry Road Quandry!
Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:06 pm 
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As everyone has said above, "no entry" means just that. I have been on "no entry" roads in SANParks vehicles and they are sometimes almost undriveable. In one case we had to turn back, with difficulty, because the track was washed away.

I have also "lost" good sightings down a "no entry" road and have just sighed and shrugged my shoulders - would not dream of following!

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