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 Post subject: No entry road's in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:37 pm 
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We once drove down a no entry road near Satara. We had family staying at a research house, this place is called Monza. After being on this road for about 10 min we realised that we were on the wrong road. I was very curious at being on this No Entry road in Kruger and decided on going the whole way to see where we ended up. The road was not very good, just a very bad dirt track not used to often, the game down this road were not too happy to see us, they more than likely, stay away from the main road's, they seemed much more skitish. We did see a White Rhino which made the trip worth it,we eventually ended up on the S40 near the Girivana Dam. Have any other member's done the no entry road's for what ever reason . Some Three or so years ago Lions killed something down a no entry road near Satara and these Lions spent the whole day feeding on this kill . The police cop heard about the kill and from the camping area at Satara, he could see cars driving down this road, to go and get a better view. As soon as someone went down the road he would quikly, jump into his van and go and give them a fine, he made a fortune for National Park's on that day. :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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I have driven on many of these......for various reasons, all official. They seldom lead anywhere really interesting, most are for maintenance purposes, access to fire breaks, etc. The animals are usually skittish because there are not many cars on the tracks, and the condition of the tracks is often poor too, adding to the vehicle noise.

Remember too that sometimes these roads or unmarked tracks lead to ranger posts or stake-out areas, and you could be jeopardising things by travelling on them.

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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I think most visitors are very curious about what happens behind those "no entry"signs... and tempted. May be "they hide" the big 5 :) or some exotic scenery .... Thanks eco-junkie for clarifying. I accept - "nature" also need some privacy.

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The official folk who use the no entry roads do so in suitable vehicles to minimise the impact on the environment. So by going down the roads without permission, one is not aiding the ego system either.

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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Going on no entry roads: :think:
1. Against the law - do not do it.
2. If you have a break down you can have big trouble.
3. You can potentially interfere with management activities such as walks, game capture, animal studies, burns, etc.
4. You are travelling on a road which is not designed for heavy traffic, and can contribute to environmental degradation.
5. Nowadays, you risk being seen as a potential poacher.


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Whilst I am always curious about what is down a no entry road, I sometimes feel I don't want to know. When I see the pictures of buildings or see the infrastructure that there is in Kruger down these unknown roads it breaks down my illusion of Kruger being "wild". I know that there are many buildings and "camps" that is used by the staff in their duties, but I want to remain oblivious to these. I want the mysticism to remain in Kruger.

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I have been down "no entry" roads many times while attending courses run at the Sand River bush camp. They are no more interesting than the official routes. If anything, the official routes are kinder to the body, as they have been comfortably worn down by frequent use..

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I absolutely agree with you, Foxy. No entry means no entry for a visitor, no matter what.
Don´t know why a few people always want to go beyond the rules.

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It happened last year in May . We saw these people driving down the no-entry road , took this pic , and reported it at Satara desk .

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Last year while driving down near the bottom of the S28 we came to the No entry road that cuts left down to Croc Bridge and we could see something lying quite a way down it, so out with the binos and what did we see, a lovely pride of Lions! :wall:
Very frustrating but despite lots of urgings from Jock to nip down there for a quick pic, :naughty: we never did. Image
but it was very tempting. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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Just keep in mind that some of the eco trails do have no entry signs.The first time i saw car exit i
was shouting at these people cant they read :rtm: only to later find it to be the mananga trail :redface:

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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PF Fourie wrote in his book "Kruger National Park, Questions and Answers" of an elderly couple that got lost and then broke down on one of these no entry roads during the seventies.

As the no entry roads are not often used by officials, the couple was only found three days later in a very bad state. Apparently they were severly dehydrated and in shock, as they spent a few nights alone in the dark, with wild anilmals lurking about the car.

The problem with these roads are that some of them are so remote, you might not be found in time, or worse come into contact with undesireables. I have been down some, while on adventure trails and the game are certainly very skittish and not used to human contact.


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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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ndloti wrote:
ndloti wrote:
Mimondzo (Monza) from outside the fenceUpper reaches of the Lubye Lubye which drains into the Sabie


... of course I never drive down on the no entry roads without the necessary permission .


:thumbs_up: That's the key. There are some perfectly legitimate reasons to go down the no entry roads, be it on business or with permission.

I have to admit that seeing no entry signs in parks around the world always pique my curiosity. But I restrain myself. :rtm:

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Am I just slow witted??
If there is a no entry sign, you don't enter!!! :rtm: :rtm:

Unless you are staff or have specific permission.

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 Post subject: Re: No entry road's in Kruger
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gabihotz wrote:
In april 2011 over the easter weekend, we were on our way back to lower sabie camp after spending 2 hours with a pride of 22 lion on the gomodwane loop, we were all ecstatic, when we drove past a no entry road 9km from LS on the main road, my father had spotted a male cheetah about 100-150m down on the no entry road. we observed the cheetah with our binocs from the main road, a man saw that we had stopped and asked us what we had seen. we told him it was a cheetah, he stated that he never had seen a cheetah in the wild before, he drove about 100m down the no entry road, got out his car, walked toewards the cheetah and started taking pictures of it...
never in my life had i ever been so shocked!

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Then since you witnessed the event, did you confront them and/or report them?


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