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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol with a reservation
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:57 pm 
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No they haven't changed, you are allowed to bring in alcohol if you have an overnight visitor. However you are only allowed to drink it at your accommodation - not at picnic sites or day visitor centres or while driving around.

Did they try to take it off you?

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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol with a reservation
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:02 pm 
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You may bring alcohol into KNP if you have a reservation for accommodation in the Park. You may only consume the said alcohol at your chalet/tent/camp site - i.e. not in your car or at a picnic site.

If you wish to buy alcohol at a camp shop you should be asked to produce your booking confirmation.

The rule was introduced to combat alcohol abuse in the KNP, especially by day visitors at popular times (i.e. long weekends and holiday times).

I think in your case, Lawrence, the person at Numbi Gate was being a little over-zealous! Good that they checked - hope they check all the day visitors and confiscated any alcohol found.

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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol with a reservation
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 Post subject: Re: Alcohol with a reservation
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I hope this does not become a problem. 4 weeks ago at Kruger Gate day visitors were advised by other visitors to pour your alcohol out if they had any. It seem gate guards might be confiscating alcohol and adding it to their own personal collections. :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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As far as I know, if they confiscate anything be it alcohol or whatever they are required to give you a receipt for it so that is what one should insist on.

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Alcohol should not be confiscated. It must either be taken somewhere else or destroyed (tipped out) before entering the park. There are no facilities to store it anywhere for visitors, or for it to be stored when confiscated. If guards are confiscating it - report them!

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Thank you, EJ for pointing out that alcohol should not be confiscated, but destroyed (poured away). It makes good sense! As someone on the ground, so to speak, you know how things work in KNP!!

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Ya I haven't seen them confiscate alcohol but throw it out in front of the visitor (the contents).

We have bought alcohol at restaurants @ Skuks and LS as day visitors... :hmz:

But the park shops don't sell without your accomodation papers.

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Day visitors are permitted to drink alcohol with meals at restaurants, but nowhere else.

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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This ruling has now been in place for some time.

Do visitors and people on the ground (like Ecojunkie et al) think that it has eradicated some of the behaviour and littering it was meant to?

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Definitely!!!! :thumbs_up:

There are always going to be the odd occasions when people smuggle it in, and try their luck, and sometimes get away with it, but in the main it has stopped all those taxis full of people who came in each weekend and at holiday times.

We spend a lot of time in Phalaborwa, so go in most days to the park. Christmas 2010 Letaba camp was a nightmare, with drunken day visitors behaving inappropriately!!!!

It is sad that the laws also penalise us good folk, who just want a cold one at a waterhole, or a buck's fizz for breakfast, but I would not want to return to how it was before the rules came in.

I believe that the new guards are very hot on checking for alcohol................will test it out in December!!! :whistle: :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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We were in KNP from 23 - 27 December. Late afternoon on the 25th there were dozens of cars heading towards Orpen Gate. During this time, a car passed us with a heavily intoxicated man, hanging out of his vehicle and shouting vile comments at fellow visitors.

Also, whilst in the Orpen camp shop a man bought large amounts of alcohol and not one staff member asked him for his overnight permit. After the man left another guest asked the staff if they ask all visitors who buy liquor if they are staying overnight in the park, the staff answered yes. Even though we saw that that was not the case.

We stayed at Orpen during the 2009 festive season and it was horrible. So compared to other years, the liquor ban has certainly helped.

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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JeanniR wrote:
So compared to other years, the liquor ban has certainly helped.


That is good to hear Jeanni :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:46 pm 
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Hi All,

I witnessed Sanparks taking quick action against some of these offenders.

We visited the shop and deck at Lower Sabie during our December stay. There was a very loud group who walked around with beers in their hands. They were requested by a Sanparks shop employee to leave the area, they did, after some comments.
We finished our shopping and went back to the carpark, and there they played very loud music and were still drinking at their cars. I took my four year old son to the loo and when we came back they were getting ready to leave. But even 14 years after I left the police I still had the habit of observing and processing my surroundings. They were carefully watched by three Sanparks personnel from different areas, and I saw a Sanparks vehicle leaving the camp at some speed. When I got inside the car I told my SO that something is up and that we will leave behind those to cars, because my gut feeling ....

The two cars left and we followed at some distance. They went through the gate and it seemed as if they want to turn left towards CB, but they suddenly turned right and then turned slowly left again.
When we reached the T-junction we saw what was happening.......roadblocks on both sides manned by park rangers,police and SANDF members. We turned right towards Sunset Dam and I could see in my mirror that they stopped them and basically surrounded them. The members at the other roadblock also started to make there way there.

The manner how the situation was handled called for quick thinking and planning, because if these people were confronted on the deck it could have had a completely different outcome.

Well done Sanparks, SANDF and SAPS. :clap: :clap: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Well done Sanparks. Would not like to be in the shoes of those people. :thumbs_up:


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