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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:13 pm 
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I like north for his quiet, scenery around Pafuri and Shingwedzi ;like also Mopani and it's surroundings,specially Nshawu waterholes and Tropic of Capricorn loop .
North is very nice for Nyalas ,big herds of ellies, buffalo and births .
Sometimes lions and leopards but not as often as in the center or south .
Like a lot Shingwedzi camp :thumbs_up:
But i like also the center Letaba and Satara ..Olifants has a beautiful view over the river though now i prefer to stay in Letaba ..but i must say i have always had more chance for sightings in Olifants .
And i like also the south for rhinos ,leopards ,lions ,wild dogs ..Cheetahs with a little chance .
As i usually go in February ,not SA holidays,so it's not very crowded at that time of the year .
I was surprised this year, a south trip only for the first time , but our lions sightings were nearly all around Pretoriuskop , we saw also plenty birds there and rhinos ,and a cheetah at Transport dam .
Berg er dal was great for very good sightings of leopards and we staid nearly half an hour alone with one before he get off :D
Just a lot of chance i suppose :whistle:

Depends of how many days you want to stay :15 days or more is nicer to do the three :)


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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:25 pm 
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I think I like the North better than the South

- Less Traffic
- Smaller camps
- Rare Antelope
- Birds
- Large Tuskers
- Best Bushcamps..Sirheni, Bateleur and Shimuwini
- Most scenic drives eg S56 and Pafuri and Mahonie loop
- Best camping eg Punda Maria, Tzendze, Shingwedzi and Balule
- Big Buffalo herds
- Great predator sightings along S56, Mopani and Shingwedzi and lately P Maria (No Cars)
- TRUE Kruger atmosphere, largely absent in South


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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:09 am 
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Location: Back where I belong....in my Beloved Kruger
Seems to me the north is the clear winner currently :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:30 am 
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My favorite is SATARA in the centre. :mrgreen:
And I prefer South Over North :D
Not much of a birder. Going out there for the game. And I have seen much more south than North :D

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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Has to be central Satara or Talamati , Orpen or Maroela
Less cars than the south by far, much more great sightings than the North.
UP North 3 cars means people are watching Impala :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:53 pm 
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If you want to see the big 5 quickly and want slightly cooler weather and are prepared to put up with traffic then the south is for you.
If you want peace and quiet as well as great scenery and birds and are prepared for it to be rather hot then you must go north.
My wife and I like Letaba and Olifants.


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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:27 am 
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Interesting Pops but consider this...Crocodile Bridge is the lowest altitude camp in Kruger and is generally the hottest or right up there.
Punda Maria is the 2nd coolest camp in Kruger after P/Kop...

Spotting the big 5 around a camp like Mopani couldn't be easier...Resident Eendrag Males, plus a few prides of lionesses they service.
5 often seen leopards like the Shipandane female and the big males at Pioneer dam and Shongololo Road.
A 1000 plus herd of resident buff, the biggest tuskers in Kruger and a few other delights like the resident cheetahs on the old main road and Roan, Eland, Sable and Tsessebe at various nearby waterholes and I haven't even mentioned Shingwedzi and Punda's delights.

Letaba and Olifants are generally considered Central Kruger with the North being north of Letaba River

I always go South too on trips as I love the P/Kop koppies and the birding around Shabeni Koppie and Biyamiti is great to escape the crowds generally but yes I see your point...the South is special that's why its so crowded not so?


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 Post subject: Re: north or south
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I would prefer the North because it is less crowdy then the South. But my favorite place is the middle of Kruger e.g. letaba that is a great compromise.

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 Post subject: Re: north or south
Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:56 pm 
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north of the olifants river = wilderness

:big_eyes: :big_eyes: :big_eyes:


between olifants and tshokwane = nature reserve


:shock: :shock: :shock:


south of tshokwane = the zoo
this includes a lot of the visitors

:wall: :wall: :wall:

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 Post subject: Re: north or south
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The north is fantastic, the sights are awesome...the camps are super nice...The baobabs forest in Nyalaland, in the hill close to Luvukhu river, my favourite sight...we saw tones of nice birds, however, we were not lucky with the big game...
Next year we are going to the half southern part...let's see which is our favourite!!

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 Post subject: Re: north or south
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well i must say just came back from letaba and shingwedzi and we saw prides of lions every day and hyena everyday.
all together we saw 18 lions. Most of them on the road and the best thing not one other car in sight.


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 Post subject: Re: North versus South?
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We prefer the northern parts of Kruger as it is for us quieter and in a sense still more “old world” but that may have different meanings for different people. Animal sightings wise the southern Kruger is definitely more productive but we prefer the Shingwedzi, Punda Maria and Pafuri, areas, perhaps the old style Kruger atmosphere charms us more. But we have just been for a visit to the southern parts and there is nothing wrong with it, I think if a person can and have the available time go for it and travel through the entire Park from North to South! But in this case the advice already provided sounds great!

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 Post subject: Advice for 1st timers visiting the North
Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:35 pm 
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Hi people. I have decided to start this topic to give advice to people visiting the North because so many forum members have not even seen Punda. Or you can even ask me about the route to Punda gate from Louis Trichart. PM's welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Advice for 1st timers visiting the North
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Doing my first trip north in a couple of months, cant wait for it. Unknown area for me :)

Some advice for a newb to the north ?


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 Post subject: Re: Advice for 1st timers visiting the North
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:23 pm 
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1 thing is a must in the north and that is Mphongolo loop. That loop is simply beautiful. No words to describe it and there is a resident leopard there which stays in the area between babalala and Sirheni.

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