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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby onewithnature » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:53 pm

Luckily (unluckily :hmz: :hmz: ) I have never seen large cats in a camp. Neither snakes. Civet, Porcupine, and African Wild Cat, yes.
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby okie » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:50 am

When we were at Punda Maria last October , just outside the camp , a badly wounded buffalo got away from hunting lions , and ran right into the camp . The buffalo had to be shot by the rangers . It cause quite a lot of excitement inside the camp ( the gate guard ran away ) , but just imagine what could have happened if the lions had persued and then caught the buffalo inside the camp!
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby Malealea » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:19 pm

I heard some stories of Leopards entering Shingwedzi Camp. but this Story is years back.
But even so the Camp is fenced, there is always animals around.
I have seen in various camps, Hyenas, Jackals, AWC, Genets,Snakes, BFC (But I'm not sure.... . It was to quick(not in KNP)). You can always can see mammals from the camp like Monkeys, Baboons, Antelopes. the probability is always there!
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby onewithnature » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:57 am

Anyone know whether it is okay to walk around at night in camps?
I would suppose it is recommended that people stay in their huts and tents as much as possible, especially as wild animals do get in.
However, sometimes one has to attend ablutions at night, and camps like Tamboti require one to walk through close bush to reach them.
At night, I have found it both hectically exciting, and a tad nerve-racking!
However, I must admit that I love walking around camps in the night if I cannot sleep, a good torch in one hand, a camera around my neck, socks and shoes on my feet, and a slow tread to make sure I don't stand on anything.
Nothing better for me than finding a bench and listening to the sounds around.
Cannot compare, in my opinion, with anything else in this world!
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby Malealea » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:15 am

If a Camp is fenced, you can walk around at night as far as I know.
But you have to be aware that game will enter.
You have to be aware at all the time, otherwise the fence is useless!
If you stay in an unfenced Camp, that will be another Story! you shouldn't go out at night, because predators will come in the Camp at night.
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby Rob C » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:21 pm

I once heard that a leopard was shot in Letaba camp and few years ago...2005 I think...
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby onewithnature » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:18 am

I know we must always be wary when walking around camps at night ... keep your eyes and ears peeled, wear socks and shoes, and have a good torch. But, I still know that the chance of dangerous predators wandering around in fenced camps is rare ... so, hey, I still love to find a bench near a river or dam and just silently appreciate the magnificence of the bush! I have done it for years and have never seen anything untoward. Of course, I'm aware there are snakes and small mammals around, but I don't go gallavanting around unnecessarily - just prefer to sit quietly and enjoy. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby shiloweni » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:58 pm

Apparently there is a leopard with half a tail hanging around Pretoruiskop at the moment. According to staff its creating havoc in the staff living quarters ?

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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby bert » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:16 pm

Very happy to see a civet at Satara and Lower Sabie
Not the dangerous cats but they are almost always around in all camps

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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby jacks » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:54 pm

We were lucky enough to have a genet come past our braai in Berg-en- Dal in July and it sat and watched us for a while.

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Unread postby Flutterby » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:05 pm

There were lions inside Lower Sabie last weekend! :big_eyes: Not too sure of the whole story..maybe someone else knows something?
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby Ernest J » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:09 pm

Had a Spotted Genet jion us for a braai in Mopani in December it was great
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby Elsa » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:05 pm

We had the large-spotted Genet visit in Mopani, B & D and on the latest trip, Punda Maria, plus the Bush baby. :D
Unfortunately, they are all after the food they are clearly being fed by some visitors. :(
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby Malealea » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:19 pm

The difference between a small spotted Genet and a Large spotted Genet is NOT the size.
The best point to Identify is by looking at the tail. If the cat have a black tip then it will be a Large spotted Genet, if they have a white tip it will be a Small spotted Genet.
A LSG has a yellow fur with black Dots, a SSG have a greyish fur with black Dots.

Ok back to Topic, of course can it be, that Predators entering the camp, but still the probability is low.
There were Stories no doubt, but very often it is the fault of stupid tourists.
Because they gonna feed them.
Have a close look at Letaba, the Bushbuck will not survive in wilderness any more, because they beg for food, lost fear of humans and Predators..... .I think that is the biggest Problem!
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Re: Cats inside camps???

Unread postby MATTHYS » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:20 pm

Are you referring to this incident, Schumi786 ?
Please see page #2 :
Re: Lion shot at Lower Sabie

Dear Dalene

Thanks for the enquiry below regarding the recent lion shooting at Lower Sabie. Hopefully the following will shed some light on the decision making process that was followed.

Six lions killed a waterbuck along the Lower Sabie camp fence yesterday (28 March 2010) earlier in the morning. As soon as the camp gate opened, tourists started moving around, causing traffic jam around the area, trying to get the best sighting of the kill. Somehow, lions became uncomfortable and started moving away from the carcass and moved towards the camp gate. As they were about to cross the road, some of the tourist vehicles got closer and two of the lions ran inside the camp and the others went away. One of the lions went into the picnic site and the other into a thick bush next to the staff residence.

The Section Ranger, Derick Mashale and his team of field rangers decided that urgent action needs to be taken to prevent a possible attack on or injury to guests and staff. A team from Veterinary Services from Skukuza also rushed to Lower Sabie and joined the ranger team in order to assist them to remove the lions from the camp. One of the lions that had moved away was now at the entrance camp gate possibly trying to locate the two lions that were inside the camp. The team managed to remove the lion at the gate and the one that was at the picnic area which left them with one lion in the thick bush around the staff residence.

The team was not keen on taking the risk with capturing the lion using the vehicle due to the thickness of the area and instead walked in. When the team swept through the area and got to a very thick area some two and half metres away, the lion jumped out aiming for an attack and they had to put it down as the situation was extremely dangerous. No one was injured, the options were weighed and the entire operation was carried out professionally and successfully.

Any wild animal trapped within a confined space such as rest camp with people milling around is bound to be dangerous and it is simply not worth taking the risk of someone getting injured or killed.

As much as we regret the killing of any animal in the park, the potential injury risk to guests or staff sometimes necessitate harsh action. Each case is however treated on merit taking all possible factors into account.
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