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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby MPA » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:49 pm

I believe it is great to be able to VENT YOUR DISGUST AND ANGER but unless somebody (KNP management) actually get up off their BUTS and move out of their ivory towers and attend to the general breakdown of control in the park nothing will happen,yes we are educating people, just remember that our population is 16,000,000,000 and growing.

The only answers you will get is words, more words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sori: :oops: :boulay:

But they will insist on building hotels and opening air strips, which tells me it all bout money :sniper:

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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby moobox » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:14 pm

So we are all very upset. I get quite upset when I see it anyway. And we want someone to do something about it. Is there anything that we can do about, directly or indirectly?

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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:24 pm

In 2009 I stopped and after a good look around, I got out of the car to pick up a discarded energy drink bottle south of Afsaal.

My timing was perfect. I handed the bottle through the window to my wheelchair-bound father, and got around to the driver's side as a police car emerged around the corner...........
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Rooies » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:27 pm

The problem is not restricted to Kruger only. When last have you walked through the CBD of a city. It is simply disgusting. Where did this all start? Is it a lack of good manners, a lack in education from parents or perhaps a lack of national pride? Or are the people just too bloomin lazy to walk the extra yard to throw the trash in a bin? Or is it a way of job creation because someone must eventually pick it up and he must be paid for the job.
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Porridge » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:29 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:In 2009 I stopped and after a good look around, I got out of the car to pick up a discarded energy drink bottle south of Afsaal.

My timing was perfect. I handed the bottle through the window to my wheelchair-bound father, and got around to the driver's side as a police car emerged around the corner...........


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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby NetEk » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:36 pm

Rooies wrote:The problem is not restricted to Kruger only. When last have you walked through the CBD of a city. It is simply disgusting. Where did this all start? Is it a lack of good manners, a lack in education from parents or perhaps a lack of national pride? Or are the people just too bloomin lazy to walk the extra yard to throw the trash in a bin? Or is it a way of job creation because someone must eventually pick it up and he must be paid for the job.


I'm with you. At a work function not a month ago one of the staff member told me he will not pick up his rubbish because the staff needs to clean the premises and "needs the pay"
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:50 pm

Porridge wrote:
Bush Baptist wrote:In 2009 I stopped and after a good look around, I got out of the car to pick up a discarded energy drink bottle south of Afsaal.

My timing was perfect. I handed the bottle through the window to my wheelchair-bound father, and got around to the driver's side as a police car emerged around the corner...........


No good deed left unpunished, BB ...


Fortunately this one was unpunished.....just. My aggressive behaviour towards the absent perpetrator convinced Sgt Khumalo of my intentions after promising not to do it again.

But here is an anomoly. We go there to experience nature, not gits' trash. It is 'illegal' to pick it up so that others' trips are not spoilt. That makes it more inperative that people are warned at the gate, and if caught, fined heavily.
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby NetEk » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:57 pm

My children are obsesive about glass bottles laying in the veld. :slap:

They where taught at school that it causes fires and will not let me pass a glass bottle.

Where I can I pull up close that I can just open the door and pick it up without leaving the car but sorry officials I have left my vechile to collect glass bottle next to the road, feel free to fine me but next veld fire is on you.....
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Bushbuddies » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:59 pm

Rooies wrote:The problem is not restricted to Kruger only. When last have you walked through the CBD of a city. It is simply disgusting. Where did this all start? Is it a lack of good manners, a lack in education from parents or perhaps a lack of national pride? Or are the people just too bloomin lazy to walk the extra yard to throw the trash in a bin? Or is it a way of job creation because someone must eventually pick it up and he must be paid for the job.


I also agree. Nothing to do with free visitors or not, it is a problem with our society. And I believe all the above are reasons. No education, no respect, no good manners, laziness, and the belief that it is somebody else's job. When we were in Shingwedzi a year ago, they had local schools with very young children coming to the day visitors area on almost a daily basis. It seemed to be a sponsored event, the kids all wore the same sponsored T-shirts and came in a big bus. We saw how they all walked around, throwing their juice boxes on the ground when they were done. I looked towards their teachers as they were sitting there, eating their chicken for lunch and then throwing the bones on the ground. What an example! :wall: I felt like walking up to them and giving them a huge lecture! :rtm:

I know we need to get more of our local population involved in, and enjoying our parks. I'm all for it. But then we have to start educating them. We need to educate South Africans to "zip it in the zibby can" - as we were taught as youngsters.
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby moobox » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:08 pm

I dont go to the rugby matches anymore. But a few years ago, I took my old Dad to a test match at Loftus Versveld. He was already pretty sick then, so after the match we hung about and slowly went off to the exit. And next thing, in storm a whole lot of people in overalls to pick up the mess the people had left there. See, it's quite a sweat to tote your trash to the bins along the aisle stairs. Just toss it down around where you are seated. Or as you walk along. Ja, the local populace at rugby test matches.

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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby dellac » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:14 pm

Good subject ... But not just done in park .. Once some ' dude' with a fancy sun roof
parked opposite our house, got out and duly tossed his coffee cup on the pavement :naughty:
My son was so annoyed with it that he went over picked up the discarded cup and threw it back
in the sun roof, only to find out ( to his delight I may add) that it was still 1/4 full .. So me thinks
someone may have had wet pants when he got back in :clap:

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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Stampajane » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:07 pm

Since our neighbourhood became "integrated", the litter in the streets is appalling. My worst is the liquor bottles which get thrown on to the road to break.

When I was in primary school way back in the 60s, there was a big anti-litter campaign and from then on, we never ever threw anything out of a car window again! I think it needs to be drummed into the young kids at school so that hopefully they will take the message home to their parents and they will also grow up being more responsible citizens.

I have taught my staff that you don't chuck rubbish on the floor in your home, so why do it in the street which is also part of the environment in which you live.

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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Porridge » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:30 pm

Your last sentence is excellent, Stampajane!!! Good luck with the rest of it though ....
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby tent dweller » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:43 pm

The problem with most people today is there is no ACCOUNTABILITY. I do not litter, I do not waste food, water, electricity, time, paper, money and many more. When most people throw litter out the car windows and you stop them and ask them why they did that their answer would most probably be "I am creating jobs".
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Re: MESSY KRUGER PARK

Unread postby Stampajane » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:56 pm

Thanks Porridge, just wish I could get through to the neighbours. Sadly they raise the race card if there are any issues arising in the area. We have a stream along one of our boundaries and it has also become a convenient place to toss take-away detritus and empty booze bottles.


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