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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:18 am 
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It is a bad idea as it may be the last thing he ever attempts to milk :lol: :? Added to the fact that it might be very difficult to locate the correct apparatus for milking in that by the description he is about to make a male buffalo very unhappy :lol:

Only bulls develop large, impressive bosses on their heads coupled with larger, thicker horns.


I agree with Oddesy (and grrraattteee to see you back on a quiz, Ods!!); not much of a ranger this oke, I suppose? He will need a lot more charms than he has at present.

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

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It is a bad idea as it may be the last thing he ever attempts to milk :lol: :? Added to the fact that it might be very difficult to locate the correct apparatus for milking in that by the description he is about to make a male buffalo very unhappy :lol:

Only bulls develop large, impressive bosses on their heads coupled with larger, thicker horns.


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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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You are out on a bush walk and your guide notices a burrow during the walk. He decides this will be a great thing to stop and show the guests and proceeds to tell them all about who makes the burrow and who may occupy it as well as lots of other very interesting information . It had rained the night before although during the dead of night so its not at the forefront of anyone's mind. There are a few flies buzzing around the entrance to the burrow and for the most part it looks abandoned as the guide notes there are no tracks and a few spider webs to one side. He then decides that for a bit of fun he will climb half in the burrow to make his point to the guests about how big they can actually be and to find a porcupine quill or two to show the guests.

Is this a good idea? :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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No .
There may be an animal which is nursing its young who may not have exited the burrow after the previous nights rain .

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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Guides ... :doh: ... :lol:

Not a good idea ... because there IS something inside.

The reason:

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here are a few flies buzzing around the entrance to the burrow


That is an indication that their taxi is still inside its garage. :twisted:

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What I'm wondering is how this over-confident guide is going to find a porcupine quill other than in the other side to his front part? :slap:

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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:lol: :lol: Imberbe! :thumbs_up: :clap: :clap: Valid point Ndloti :thumbs_up:

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What I'm wondering is how this over-confident guide is going to find a porcupine quill other than in the other side to his front part? :slap:

:lol: :lol: either a porcupine quill or a tusk :doh:

Imberbe, your IT! :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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After dusting himself and removing the excess quills, our dear khaki clad field guide seems to have learnt his lesson.

It is not long before he and his group spot two dark maned lion males sleeping in the sun some one hundred meters away. The lions are in the open and the wind is in the group's favour. After looking at the two males for a few moments, the guide decides to lead the group away to safety.

Is this the correct decision?

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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Absolutely. "A few moments" is ample for anyone to get the a sense of the predators. The wind can change in seconds, the lions are never truly "fast asleep" and can cover 100m faster than Usain Bolt can ever hope to, if they get the scent of something they feel threatened by. Moving guests to safety is the correct course of action.

Plus, I think you want to resurrect the reputation of the wonderful SANParks guides.

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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I cannot think that the field guide has any other option than to lead the group to safety. Unless he is family of the nutcase on TV that wants to make pals with wild lions.

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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Fully agree that if the lions are in the open with no cover around it is best not to go closer. He needs to consider wind direction too. If there is cover nearby, and the wind direction is right (blowing from the lions, not swirling at all) then he could have attempted a closer approach keeping to cover, after quickly reminding his guests about walking rules and signals, and checking that they would be comfortable with a closer approach too. But we need more information before really saying whether he was right or wrong!

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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:lol: Good opinions all. :twisted: But ....

Obviously everything depends on the situation, which is impossible to describe in a few sentences.

Some more information on your own possibility of approaching behind cover would have helped.

But two males sleeping a 100 meters away in the open with the wind in your favour ...

Wind in your favour and sleeping ... the chance of them noticing you is not that good.
100 meters ... very far, you should be able to approach up to 50 or 60 meters depending on cover.
Two males ... the usual reaction, if they wake up and do notice you ... they should run away.
Males alone ... no females ... not mating ... no kill ... more reason to suspect they will run if they spot you.

I think EJ is the closest. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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My take is that the guide took the right decision .
The aim of walking in the wilderness should not be to experience excitement by approaching animals up close , but to observe from a distance in silence .

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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OK, let's try this....

Our guide now decides it is time for a break. He leads the group towards a seasonal river where he knows there is a fairly shallow pool of water and a nice shady tree on a bank where they can sit and watch.

On the way he points out that they are on a path made by a hippo as it has a middle ridge, and also points out some hippo dung sprayed against bushes along the path.

They get to the break point, and he points out a lone hippo lying in the water before putting his rifle down carefully, and starting to get out the snacks for the break. The group settle down and begin to relax while watching the hippo and wondering if anything will come to drink.

Has he made the right decision? If yes, why? If not, why not?

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 Post subject: Re: If not, why not? (RV)
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Wrong decision .
There is little water around (seasonal shallow pool inhabited by hippo - thus high possibility that there is population pressure) and evidence of recent and regular use of the path (middle ridge and dung spraying) which indicates the possibility of more hippo grazing in the shade in the area , and being close to the water with the possibility of hippo returning to the water as it is obviously daytime and possibly getting hotter ...

Never be in a position where you may be between a hippo and its water pool .

Besides the above a single hippo in a small pool of water indicates population pressure as a result of dry conditions and also may indicate it is injured (or sick) and in this situation they may be agressive and charge with little warning .

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