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Well Done batman!!!!!! Absolutely brilliant Richprins :clap: :clap: :clap:

Richprins - 1 RosemaryH - 0 :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Being named, a protector of all living things, (it didn’t gel) he knew me well,
And many a story he would always tell.

Over to my east, he often chose to stay, when he wasn’t moving beacons, to make his dough,
Because to my west, he could always refill, his bottles if they were running low.
And, he knew, what I carried in my suitcase, huge, folded and smooth,
Because there was always something, he could use.

He watched, as Nelly ripped and silenced the dogs,
In her throat, it too was dry, just like the woodland all around, which
Left not much to quench her thirst, in the soil, well drained, among the rocks on this earth.
Leftovers from Nelly’s fight with the dogs, would aid this secretive hunter to remove his kills.

I put on my green gloves, but not when’s it’s cold, it’s just to call,
Nearer, some folks to a ball.
They come over once I’ve put out my pendulous goods,
Hanging there, waiting, waxy and white,
Even the others, woody and hard, they too, some friends, eagerly invite.

Noticeable now for all to see.
Oh my! What a beautiful sight!
Rather majestic, standing on top, I seem very lonely, but I’m really not, for
They gather from me all the things they might need, to carry to catch to
Hang or to drink, and even to halt a sneeze, I would think!

Keep on the right track. Watch out, as you Find It…. the mats hit your shins…(ouch!)
Now, look very carefully and follow the lines, for by
Paying attention my name you will find!!

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This has something to do with a baobab - Baobab Hill or the southernmost baobab in the Park???

The explaining is also still beyond me except for one verse -

"I put on my green gloves......" - when the baobab sprouts its leaves in summer.
"...my pendulous goods, hanging there waxy and white" - the flowers of the baobab.
The "folks" that is called must then be the bats that pollinates the flowers.
"The others, woody and hard" - the woody seedpods which follow the flowers.

Also the first line - "protector of all living things" - the baobab is often called the tree of life, capable of providing shelter, food and water for animals and humans alike.

"They gather from me all things they might need ....." - the bark is used for cloth and rope, the leaves for condiments and medicine. The fruit is rich in Vitamine C - "to halt a sneeze"

The fruit is also called "monkey bread" - the "dough" in the second verse.

"Fill his bottles" - the tree is capable of storing hundreds of litres of water which is tapped in dry times.

Have to go with Baobab Hill then - "rather majestic, standing on top"

Cannot explain the third verse though - still working on that.

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The "he that knew me well" - might that be Bvekenya, our most notorious ivory poacher, Stephanus C R Barnard?

Then "over to my east he often chose to stay" must be Crook's Corner, "when he wasn't moving beacons to make his dough" - he worked and earned his money (dough) legally for a while by building roads and drifts in the area for the mines. One of these drifts was built at Klopperfontein - "to my west, he could always refill his bottles". A part of one of the roads built by him can still be made out at Baobab Hill.

How am I doing?

The verse about "Nelly" and "the dogs" is however a total mystery to me!!


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I think you are doing really well Naomi, :clap:

I was also thinking Baobab or certainly one of our big trees but just couldn't find enough literature to fill many of the facts.
Will try and rack my brains a bit more and see if I can come up with anything else. :wink:

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Mmmm......I wonder who let the dogs out? I'm sure you'll find them :) :) :)

Here's:lotsocoffee: to keep you going Naomi and Elsa :)

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You have outdone yourself this time RosemaryH!

I have gone through all my reference books but could not come up with anything. Have not given up though!

Spotted Cat, we need some help here!!


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NAOMI!!!! Hope you not loosing any sleep!!!!

You are doing very well (as usual) :clap:

I'm not trying to throw you off track, I just want you to get the bit you not getting :) :) You deserve to get the whole thing. You probably going to slap me silly!!!!

So read it carefully one more time as......all together now
"Who let the dogs out......" :dance: :dance: While Nelly packs her suitcase and says goodbye to a place :dance: :dance: and to the kids that are asking how much that dog in the window costs :dance: :dance: !

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:yaya: Can I have a go?! I think I might get it right this time :lol:

RosemaryH wrote:
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He watched, as Nelly ripped and silenced the dogs,
In her throat, it too was dry, just like the woodland all around, which
Left not much to quench her thirst, in the soil, well drained, among the rocks on this earth.
Leftovers from Nelly’s fight with the dogs, would aid this secretive hunter to remove his kills.
...


He watched, as the elephant (Nelly=elly) ripped the bark (Dogs=bark),
In her throat, it was too dry, just like the woodland all around,
(There is a drought and the elephant is chewing on the spongy bark to relieve her thirst.)
which left not much to quench her thirst, in the soil, well drained, among the rocks on this earth.
(Referring to the drought again?)
Leftovers from the Elephant's fight with the bark, would aid this secretive hunter to remove his kills.
(The human uses the leftover bark also to quench thirst? Ok this one I'm guessing)

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Naomi and CS - I cannot do better than that :clap: maybe just add this ...

Leftovers from Nelly's fight with the dogs, (strips of bark)would aid (snares)this secretive hunter (poacher) to remove his kills ... (come back later to retrieve....)

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Thanx SC! You could be onto something here.

I am still totally clueless about Nelly and the dogs, despite RosemayH trying to help!

I have stumbled onto some more interesting facts regarding this Bvekenya - his camp was at Crook's Corner, next to the beacon that marked where SA, Zimbabwe and Mozambique came together. He apparently moved this beacon ("moving beacons to make his dough") everytime the police of one country came looking for him, thus placing himself in another country! He never had to break camp. He also had a herd of tame eland providing him with milk. Clever guy!!


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Location: Where hippos, crocs and sharks meet ...
naomi - very interesting :) a crook living at Crook's Corner!
That's a good example of 'sitting on the fence' :wink:

Agree with you, Rosie's clues are giving me the blues. :roll: Sorry Rose, I just don't get it :redface:
Going out tonight, will pop in again tomorrow.

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Now, now SC no need to be blue!! You guys were great. :D
Naomi... Well Done to you again. :clap: :clap: :clap:
You are brilliant girl!!! 8)
Together with SC you told us so much more about the characters and location in the riddle. Thanks!
Candy's Style you cracked Nelly's fight with the dogs :clap: :clap:


Being named, a protector of all living things, (it didn’t gel) he knew me well,
And many a story he would always tell.

He was named Bvekenya,” a protector of all living things” in Zulu. SC Barnard was
an Ivory Hunter, so the name given to him doesn’t really make sense.


Over to my east, he often chose to stay, when he wasn’t moving beacons, to make his dough,
Because to my west, he could always refill, his bottles if they were running low.

Bvenkenya often camped to the east of this location and there
was drinking water to the west . Apparently, he spent most of his time poaching up at
Crooks Corner and was said to move the beacon, to
keep the law off his back, he would move the beacon into one of the other countries
as soon as he had sniff that they were after him. What a sneak!!


And, he knew, what I carried in my suitcase, huge, folded and smooth,

Another word for suitcase is trunk. A tree trunk described as huge, the bark is folded
and smooth


Because there was always something, he could use.

This tree has many uses[/color]

He watched, as Nelly ripped and silenced the dogs,

Nelly the elephant, packed her trunk an said goodbye to the circus… “
Elephants are known to rip the BARK off this tree(silenced the dogs ( bark)…
[/color]

In her throat, it too was dry,for moisture just like the woodland all around, this tree occurs
in dry woodland which

Left not much to quench her thirst, in the soil, well drained, among the rocks on this earth.
but mostly in well drained, rocky soil

Leftovers from Nelly’s fight with the dogs, would aid this secretive hunter to remove his kills.

fibre from the inner bark is used to make ropes among other things, sure he needed
some rope when transporting all his ivory!


I put on my green gloves, but not when’s it’s cold, it’s just to call,

This tree is deciduous, the leaves are described as alternate and hand-shaped hence the
green gloves


Nearer, some folks to a ball.

They come over once I’ve put out my pendulous goods,
Hanging there, waiting, waxy and white,
Even the others, woody and hard, they too, some friends, eagerly invite.

It’s leaves are readily eaten by elephant, kudu, nyala and impala. The flowers(Oct-Dec)
are waxy and white, relished by various game species and the fruit (Apr-May)has a
hard woody shell.

Noticeable now for all to see.
Oh my! What a beautiful sight!

No need to explain the beauty of one of these giants in flower!

Rather majestic, standing on top, I seem very lonely, but I’m really not, for

There is a marked spot, on a hill, on the H1-8, where a beautiful, solitary specimen,
stands sentinel!


They gather from me all the things they might need, to carry to catch to
Hang or to drink, and even to halt a sneeze, I would think!

The inner fibre is also used to make baskets, nets, fishing lines and the leaves are rich in
Vit C. Not mentioned in the riddle, Absorbic acid in the pith of the fruit makes a
refreshing drink. Seeds can be eaten fresh or dry and if roasted provides a substitute for
coffee.


Keep on the right track. Watch out, as you Find It…. the mats hit your shins…(ouch!)

Looking at the map you will see a mountain or hill, with the name Matshitshinsdzudzi
nearby.


Now, look very carefully and follow the lines, for by
Paying attention my name you will find!!

If you look carefully at the sentences( or lines) of the riddle, the first letters of each one
spells out the name and location of the tree!!!!! BAOBAB HILL IN THE NORTH
- KNP!


PS…PL
Usually I would specify if the riddle is to find a PL place, PS plant species or AS
animal species, at the start of the riddle. This time I added it as a “oh by the way”
telling you it was a plant species PS…. at a specific place PL.

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Goodmorning RosemaryH!

As I have said before - you have outdone yourself on this one!
Brilliant!! You sommer deserve another Kudu for it!

That you manage to spell out the answer in the starting letters of each sentence - absolutely amazing!

You really have a very special talent.

Can we look forward to another one?


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Well done Rosemary on a brilliant riddle and congrats to Naomi, SC and CS for cracking it. :clap:
This one had me totally befuddled. :?

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