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 Post subject: Low maintance roads
Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:33 pm 
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I recently discovered these little roads around Palaborwa Gate. Has anyone travelled them. They are brilliant. It is only for High rise vehicles though. :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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Are these new roads Scipio?
The only ones I see on my map are the S131 and S51 to Sable Dam and the ruins.

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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We saw the new signs at the end of October but the roads were not yet open. Hope to give them a try next week :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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Elsa, these roads are not on a map yet. There is a lot of k's to travel. I am mapping them with the GPS at the mo. Freda, you can take them, they are really nice. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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Scipio wrote:
Been on two today, if you want big5 you might see it if you are lucky. One thing you do get is a lot of birds, snakes(3,5meter mamba included :big_eyes: ) & the highlight, African Wild Cat. :lol:

Very good. Not for anybody that wants to rush from camp to camp or sighting to sighting. :thumbs_up:


I saw a concrete "plinth" road sign under construction along the H14 in Sept , are these the roads being referred to ?

I am convinced you see more of the "small special" game on quieter roads , also that one saw more early morning specials when there were less cars .

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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Yes Ndloti, thinking on your posts these are perfect for you. You dont need a 4x4 as well but, a sedan wont suffice.

DEEDEE, you must try them, lekker stuff to sit underneath the tree looking over the Letaba with a cold one. 8)

We saw a massive amount of the smaller things to offer. Really good stuff.

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Im also very curious about these roads :hmz: There is nothing better than travelling sand roads (besides S28 and S100 :roll: ) and seeing maybe one car in an hour and having every sighting to yourself 8)

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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Scipio , I am still not sure exactly where these these roads are . It sounds to me as if they may be part of the Nonokani eco trail , as you describe views of the river , in which case one is required to pay as one of a limited amount of daily users ?
(If available to all , perhaps best kept a secret , otherwise there may be many recoveries of rental cars required judging that the roads are a bit rough .)

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Ndloti, They are around Nononkani, just to the north. Not part of the Nononkani (My fave adventure trail) :hmz:

DEEDEE, If you come through Phalaborwa you are welcome to make a pitstop @ my house with the pack. :wink:

As soon as I see some sedans on these roads I will take the shovel off the landy & dig a few holes. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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Buffalo kill late this avvie on one. Lone vehicle & no humdrum. :lol: I just love these roads. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: No Maintenance roads.
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I drove the one that takes you to the viewpoint over Letaba river on Sunday morning on the way out of the KNP . The solitude is most impressive . Saw a brand new giraffe still with umbilical cord .
Saw only two other high ground clearance vehicles . Sedan cars will get in trouble after more heavy rain .
Scipio , I think keep your spade ready .

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One can get a map of these roads at the Phalaborwa Gate. The roads are called Category D roads. According to the map, the total distance is 54km.

I did a few of them. They have a different atmosphere about them. It is like driving on a farm road. You can’t be in a hurry, because the going is slow. There are lots of speed humps to prevent the roads from water damage during downpours. I did them in a Corsa Utility, which handled the roads perfectly well. I won’t do it when the roads are wet.

The sightings were not good, but I did them during the hot hours of the day. Birding is good though. I will definitely do it again, but if you have to travel between camps, I won’t recommend them.


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Skopsie, big game tend to be shy on these roads but, we did get a HUGE herd of Buffalo, & some nice ellie there. I know of a litter of AWC :twisted: Saw them twice already. Pangolin :big_eyes:

2 Black Rhino on one of the loops(Wont say where :twisted: ) Also Bird, reptiles & other small stuff abound. :thumbs_up: These little roads are great & the view over the Letaba (Old road to Mahlangeni) is cool. 8)

Best is, you just tend to have solitude at a sighting. We sat in between the herd og Buff. for hours, seeing them interact. :wink:

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View over Letaba river , not far from Shimuwini .

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I have traveled most of these roads in the vicinity of Phalaborwa gate and am as excited as Scipio.

I have not seen much but the solitude and roads remind me of days gone bye.

Dont be in a hurry but they are all well worth while.


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