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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:57 pm 
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This must be a new thing as we have never seen baboons their before :big_eyes: :big_eyes: :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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Same with me. Only saw lots of Hornbills and Starlings.
It seems the situation totally changed, the question is...why???

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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741022 wrote:
Warning - Afsaal
We were at Afsaal yesterday 7 July 2013 making brunch and I was shocked to see how the baboons dominate the picnic spot. I witness two attacks of the dominate (big) male attacking tourist with food in their hands - grabbing the food and running away. It was scary to see the aggression the baboon use to get the food he wants. If there is anyone that can do anything about this please do so because someone is going to get hurt. Then I am not even going to mention the vivet monkeys stealing food of the tables. Surely we are in the bush and I realize it is us humans creating this chaos by feeding the animals but I don't think it is worth it by being attacked by a baboon. Please take care when visiting Afsaal.


Hi! 741022

Thanks for letting us know about this problem. I will forward your concern to the section ranger for his immediate attention.

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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I am afraid that the habits of the baboons will not change and that they will continue raiding the visitor's tables until they are shot and killed. This comes from feeding the animals.

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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We were at Afsaal in April and we didn't see any baboons, all we saw were hornbills and starlings. This must be a new thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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There's probably not an abundance of food in the veld for the baboons, being mid-winter, hence the raids on the picnic sites where humans are soft targets. They're hungry and the food is there for the taking. It's a pity, because now they'll have to be removed by force.

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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Bush Baptist wrote:
:hmz: Sounds like the real 'Afsaal' leopard should be tempted again.

A few years ago he raced into the picnic area, took some bacon off a skottel and dashed away.


:big_eyes: :big_eyes: :big_eyes: I Bet the peeps that the bacon belonged too where in a bit of shock after that :D

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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Well I would definitely not mind loosing my bacon that way ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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As I have said in a previous Topic the thing we have found is to make them aware that you know they are there and what they are up to.
What we find works like a charm now is, as soon as we get there and we see them hanging about, we find a stick, the bigger the better, show it to them :naughty:
and then lay it on the table where they can see it easily.
We also try and keep food covered at all times, so I always take an extra cloth or paper towel, anything, as long as the food is no longer visible, definitely helps.
And to date we haven't had any further problems with them stealing our lunch. :thumbs_up:

I must also add that we didn't see a sign of monkeys or baboons at Afsaal last month and we were there twice, so this is something new.
Lots of the usual birds begging and of course either being fed or eating off plates left behind on the tables.
Easy to either scrape any leftovers into the bin or simply take the plates back to the kitchen!


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 Post subject: Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP
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A few years ago we were at Afsaal. There used to be a wooden hut on the far left of the picnic site....not sure what it was used for but we saw a young hyena go inside and come out with what looked like a pot in his mouth and dissapear into the bush behind the hut. also had a run in with the vervets at nkulu and pafuri picnic spots.
I have concidered carring my kettie with me at the picnic spots but dont want to get into trouble.
It is sad that we humans will "feed" the animals calling it cute but then complain when they raid our food. I heard of an incident at Tsokwane where the manager or someone in power actually issued a fine to tourists feeding the vervets :clap: if we all report the "raids" to the powers that be something will or hopefully will be done
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 Post subject: Re: Afsaal Picnic Spot
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We stopped at Afsaal at the end of July. Food was good. It is now run by SANParks and is more like Tshokwane. Picnic tables we clean. There were bug repellant candles on the tables and bug catchers in some of the trees. We cooked breakfast there without any hassle from flies.

BTW - there is a new day visitors area for Berg-el-Dal (no longer in the camp). Has anyone stopped there?

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 Post subject: Re: Afsaal Picnic Spot
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That is good news Cheetahlady :dance:
Well done sanparks :thumbs_up:
and a BIG Thank you for improving Afsaal :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Afsaal Picnic Spot
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Thank you Cheetahlady for telling us the good news about Afsaal.

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 Post subject: Re: Afsaal Picnic Spot
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Thank you Cheetahlady, such good news, we really enjoy Afsaal, and its good to hear that everything is A1 again :gflower:

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 Post subject: Re: Afsaal Picnic Spot
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Have just returned from a two week trip to Kruger and stopped in at Afsaal twice.
The shop is quite empty with a couple of empty racks.
No curios being sold, other than guidebooks and maybe magnets etc.
The gas bottles were in pretty poor shape as well - R 20 for the hire thereof so R 3 more than at Mooiplaas - both bottles we hired were not working 100% - the first time we stopped we were foolish enough to set up under the trees - there must have been 20 yellow billed hornbills which would literally steal your food from your plate if you looked away!!
The skottel was not removed by any of the parks officials after we ate either which simply encourages these birds to keep hanging around.
Fortunately the second time we took precautions and set up under one of the covered areas and were not affected by the birds at all.
Also, this time one of the staff members took the skottel for cleaning after we were done.
Regarding flies, I did not really notice any - the incense burner that we did see was full of 'stompies' so no good there.
Please note that they are also currently renovating the bathrooms...

Also popped in to Tshokwane and Nkuhlu and can confirm both were in good working condition.
MUCH better than Afsaal. It's such a pity cos where else do you go in the South for breakfast?
Next time we will use the new Pretoriuskop picnic area - nice and clean and quiet!!!


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