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Re: Lark, Rufous-naped

Unread postby Leeukos » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:23 pm

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Re: Lark, Rufous-naped

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Re: Lark, Rufous-naped

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Re: Lark, Rufous-naped

Unread postby JenB » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:45 pm

Beautifully detailed pic Leeukos. :)
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby arks » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:13 pm

Some more larks that I'm not 100% sure about ... I think that all three of these are rufous-naped larks? All seen at Mokala in late October 2012.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby MattAxel » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:13 pm

Number 2 looks good for Rufous-naped.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby arks » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:31 pm

Thanks Matt, but I remain a bit confused :hmz: What precisely are the differences between the Eastern clapper lark and the rufous-naped lark -- because all three of these look pretty much alike to me :wall: -- whereas the drawings of these two larks in my Newmans look somewhat different from each other ... :hmz: I'd thought that what would appear (to me) to be a rufous crest/crown on all three of these birds were what made them all seem (to me) to 'fit' as rufous-naped for me :wall: :hmz:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby MattAxel » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:26 pm

arks, sorry it's taken me so long to respond, I've been quite busy in the past few days. It's quite tough to describe the differences, they become much more obvious once you see them both out in the field. Two features I can point out here are that Rufous-naped has a more scaled appearance on the back, whereas E Clapper is more mottled on the back. Another one is that E Clapper is more uniformly coloured, and is rufous on the back and underneath, whereas Rufous-naped is usually a more two-toned bird that's lighter underneath. Hope that helps a bit.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby arks » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:31 pm

Thanks Matt, it does help a bit. I do know that there were lots of clapper larks about when I was visiting Mokala, because they were doing that amazing wing-clapping thing, so I heard them more often than I saw them -- or so I thought :hmz: In fact, it rather surprises me that some of my (many) lark photos should turn out to be of clapper larks, since I had the sense that they never stayed still long enough for pix. However, looking through more of my photos, I can clearly see that some of my larks have a more uniformly russet breast, while others have a lighter, buff-toned breast .... Thanks for giving me these criteria to help me with sorting out which are which :thumbs_up:
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Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby huntsman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:06 am

Since it's a quiet Sunday, here are three more and then I'll sit down... :D

Fairly sure with one. All taken at Rietvlei last month

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:30 pm

Rufous-naped lark.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby huntsman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:49 pm

Thanks Johan -

No chance the second is Spike Heeled? :? I have plenty of shots of a Rufous naped from the same area and really believed these were two different species...



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This bird has far less rufous in the primary/secondary feathers which confused me.

Which features am I missing?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:59 pm

Too little red in the wing panel? Look again at your first pic... That is typical for RNL. They don't always flash their red crests like in your second set of pix.

Why is it not spike-heeled? Tail too long, bill too robust and too short, amongst many other features

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby huntsman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:21 pm

Check elsewhere first, eh?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:44 am

Huntsman, I'm not "redirecting" you not to use the Help Forum. I'm just bringing to your attention one of the BEST birding resources for SA birds.... ON THE ENTIRE WEB!!! And it is right here on our Forum! :dance:

No matter how much one researches birds, there is always a few remaining IDs that one needs help with. Quite often you get your AHA! moment seconds after reading the reply from a forumite... :lol: That is what the Help Forum is there for, to help birders and grow the love for Birding.

Keep up your quest for more... :thumbs_up:
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