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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:22 am 
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Hi Yoda, your Lapwing has become quite famous over the years and many experts believe it is a hybrid bird possibly between a White Crowned Lapwing and Blacksmith Lapwing.

Johan, I am going to shoot with an ID here, and I think it might be a Pied Starling, could possibly be something else but to me it looks like a Starling.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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You can read some of the discussions here as well Yoda: Strange Kruger Lapwing. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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By gosh Hilda, ( THIS SHOULD HAVE READ DOT- DAN) I think you are correct. I found the Pale-winged Starling there as well and I had a look at the images of a Pied Starling in Roberts but could not find anything to show me that there might be some ruffling of feathers on the head. Now after your ID I had a look at various other images on web as well as in my SASOL Bird Guide and in SASOL a side view image (not drawing) give an indication of a feather ridge over the head. The 2 spots of white aroud the tail area did not make me believe that it was a Witgat. Tnx a lot I think you are correct. :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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DotDan wrote:
Johan, I am going to shoot with an ID here, and I think it might be a Pied Starling, could possibly be something else but to me it looks like a Starling.


Thanks for the compliment johanclassen but the compliment is due to DotDan! :D

I also had a look at the Pied Starling after DotDan identified your bird as one, and could clearly see the resemblance on the pictures on Roberts' Multimedia, but only after DotDan identified it. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Now you know why I missed the ID, I think I am not only old but also having eye problems :wall: :wall: I am so sorry DotDan. Why I posted Hilda, I dont know, as I read your double answer re the Lapwing and this ID all I did was type Hilda. Dont worry I am sure you are used to it. :redface: Tnx anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Ag it is only a pleasure Johan, and really no need to apologize for anything, as long as you are happy that you have your bird indentified :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I'm really puzzled by this starling, seen at Mapungubwe in late October 2014, because of the dark eye and the (apparently) short tail. Dark eye would indicate either Meves's or Burchell's, but the short tail would seem to indicate either Cape glossy or greater blue-earred. I'm baffled! :wall:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I guess it could be a juvenile Meve's...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks, Johan, that's interesting. Do the juveniles not have the long tail? I also thought that the angle of the pix might distort (foreshorten) the length of the tail (I don't have any pix of this birdie that are not 'head on') and that it might be a Burchell's?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Could you please ID this sparrow type bird seen in the Kruger park. Although it looks like a sparrow it doesn't match any of the markings in my bird book.

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Looks like a Chestnut-backed Sparrow-lark

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I think it's a chestnut backed sparrowlark.(m)

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It is indeed! Nice pic.

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Thanks, Johan, that's interesting. Do the juveniles not have the long tail? I also thought that the angle of the pix might distort (foreshorten) the length of the tail (I don't have any pix of this birdie that are not 'head on') and that it might be a Burchell's?


Bill and facial mask is wrong for Burchell's. Also, Burchell's starlings avoid the miombo woodland habitat up in Northern Kruger / Mapungupwe, much preferring open woodland with knob thorn and camel thorn.

And you are probably right about the angle of view...

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Thanks so much for these details, Johan. Yet again, I have learned something new and useful :thumbs_up: :dance:

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