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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:24 am 
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My girlfriend took a photo of this duck at Austin Roberts a few weeks ago. We struggled to identify it and we're still not sure. Is it possibly a ringed teal?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Johan van Rensburg, or any of our other bird experts, could you kindly answer Tessa G's question below? :D

Tessa G wrote:


Someone might like to answer this for me....

I have an old Newmans Birds of Kruger National Park and now the Roberts Birds of Kruger National Park and notice how many of the birds names have changed. To this novice, some of the names are so confusing....some Plovers are still Plovers, but others are now Lapwings! Also I saw a photo taken by Johan van Rensburg on his Balule Bash 2014 of a 'Wattled Flycatcher' - in my old book - but notice that it is now called a Black Throated Wattle Eye!!! :wall: Never heard of a Wattle Eye before. Sorry for rambling, but am curious as to why these re-naming, re-classifications have happened.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hi Tessa (and Hilda).

The name changes happened in order to comply to international bird name standards.

As far as older books go. Lots have changed since their publications. More bird species were added, distribution maps were updated and even the text were revised. In extreme cases there have been splitting and lumping of species too. So all in all, it is definitely worth the money to buy yourself a latest edition. Or alternatively, you can always ask Father Christmas for one. :D

Alternatively, if you don't want a new book. You can always just familiarize yourself with the latest names here:

http://www.worldbirdnames.org/

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I would agree with your ID rcysa of ringed teal.

However I would be hesitant to get excited about it as vagrant ducks are often regarded with suspicion as to their origin.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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wildtuinman wrote:
Hi Tessa (and Hilda).

The name changes happened in order to comply to international bird name standards.

As far as older books go. Lots have changed since their publications. More bird species were added, distribution maps were updated and even the text were revised. In extreme cases there have been splitting and lumping of species too. So all in all, it is definitely worth the money to buy yourself a latest edition. Or alternatively, you can always ask Father Christmas for one. :D

Alternatively, if you don't want a new book. You can always just familiarize yourself with the latest names here:

http://www.worldbirdnames.org/

:thumbs_up: Hilda and Tessa G for raising this issue as it's all very confusing to us novices. :wall:
Thanks to Wildtuinman for the answer...........obvious I suppose :?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Bush Baptist wrote:
I would agree with your ID rcysa of ringed teal.

However I would be hesitant to get excited about it as vagrant ducks are often regarded with suspicion as to their origin.


Thanks BB!

I read up on them a bit, I agree it's most likely an escapee. It was quite fun running out of SA ducks though :)


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wildtuinman wrote:
Hi Tessa (and Hilda).

The name changes happened in order to comply to international bird name standards.

As far as older books go. Lots have changed since their publications. More bird species were added, distribution maps were updated and even the text were revised. In extreme cases there have been splitting and lumping of species too. So all in all, it is definitely worth the money to buy yourself a latest edition. Or alternatively, you can always ask Father Christmas for one.

Alternatively, if you don't want a new book. You can always just familiarize yourself with the latest names here:

http://www.worldbirdnames.org/


Thank you for the explanation Wildtuinman! I hope Tessa G reads here soon! :clap: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks Wildtuinman for the explanation, that makes a lot of sense. I have had a long chat to Father Christmas and I believe one could be coming my way, in the big red sack! :dance:

I have bookmarked 'Index to Birds' which I am referring to a lot, until my new book arrives on Christmas Day :D

Thanks for your help with this Hilda.

Well we will just have to work a little harder at our quizzes I suppose Umtali 1 :lol:

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One can always look at the bird apps as well instead of buying a book. The benefit of this of course is that you will always have a handy source in your pocket no matter where you go and you have the calls of the birds as well. Very helpful indeed!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Good day

I was in the Mokala National Park recently and one sighting that really intrigued me was a cuckoo sighting that was either a European or African cuckoo. The park checklist had the African Cuckoo on the list, however, after a long observation I could only think it was the European Cuckoo.

According to distribution maps, none of the two is present in that area.

Can anyone help in possible information on the distribution of the cuckoos in the Mokala area?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Common Cuckoo would be out of range, I agree.

http://sabap2.adu.org.za/species_info.php?spp=340

As for African Cuckoo, it would be more than likely the cuckoo you saw at Mokala.

http://sabap2.adu.org.za/species_info.p ... #menu_left

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After much puzzlement and searching....
Grey Plover?

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Your ID looks good to me, Albert. :thumbs_up:

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wildtuinman wrote:
Common Cuckoo would be out of range, I agree.

http://sabap2.adu.org.za/species_info.php?spp=340

As for African Cuckoo, it would be more than likely the cuckoo you saw at Mokala.

http://sabap2.adu.org.za/species_info.p ... #menu_left



Thanks wiltuinman


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Hi,

I would like some help with the ID of this sunbird please. I believe that this could be a juvenile scarlet chested sunbird but I'm not sure.

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