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Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Josh of the Bushveld » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:45 am

Just back from a great long weekend in BnD.

I have 2 questions about birds, unfortunately no photos.

The first is about a suspected Eastern Nicator. I'm pretty sure I got the ID right, and one of the camp's trail guides also reckoned I'm right. The reason for my confusion is that I saw it mainly in trees, where the description in my Roberts and Sasol describes it as mostly skulking in undergrowth. It was in the campsite at the end of camp, where there is thick bush. The bird was hanging out a little with a small flock of Retz's Helmet-shrikes (my second sighting of this bird). My question is, even though the bird was in trees a lot and flying around, is there still a good chance it is an Eastern Nicator?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby DotDan » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:24 am

Hi Josh, I am going to try and help you as best I can here so here goes:

1. Difficult to answer this one as Nicator's are not a common bird to begin with. If I remember correctly it has been recorded away from Punda such as camps like Satara, so the possibility is there that it could have been a Nicator. How you describe its characteristics though makes me wonder whether you might not have seen a Sombre Greenbull? Did this bird have distinct spots on the wings?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Maxwell » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:48 am

Back to the Nicator. If there were good spots on it then the only other thing it could be would be Grey-headed Bushshrike and you would know that fellow if you saw it. So, using Sherlocks Holme's guide to identification..if it was a Nicator it could not be the other two, Western or Yellow-throated, so however improbable the remainder, that was what you saw. (IF you saw Yellow spots.)

Always remember Bird Guides are exactly what they pretend to be. Guides. Not Laws. Birds cannot read and if this guy was off the bottom storey it makes no difference. I have seen birds in locations that the "Experts" have said they should not be.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Josh of the Bushveld » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:40 am

Hehe thanks for the help guys!
The suspected Nicator had very prominent spots on the coverts. That's what excited me when I saw it. I saw a Sombre Greenbul the following day and it was very different.

Two new ticks, great!
The birding in BnD was really good, its a very pleasant camp.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Johann » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:49 am

Josh of the Bushveld wrote:The first is about a suspected Eastern Nicator. I'm pretty sure I got the ID right, and one of the camp's trail guides also reckoned I'm right. The reason for my confusion is that I saw it mainly in trees, where the description in my Roberts and Sasol describes it as mostly skulking in undergrowth. It was in the campsite at the end of camp, where there is thick bush. The bird was hanging out a little with a small flock of Retz's Helmet-shrikes (my second sighting of this bird). My question is, even though the bird was in trees a lot and flying around, is there still a good chance it is an Eastern Nicator?

Every time that I have found the Nicator at Punda Maria it had been up in the trees calling. Same around Mahonie loop, Nyalaland trail and Roodewal forest outside Louis Trichardt. I have never found it on the ground like it's suppose to be. Maybe it is just too inconspicious when on the ground inbetween the leaf litter and we never notice it. Confusing species I guess would be Grey-headed Bush-Shrike or a female Black Cuckooshrike (some people find it confusing?).
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Josh of the Bushveld » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:07 pm

Great! Thanks for the confirmation.
My first thought was indeed female Cuckooshrike but of course the colouring and the season was all wrong. The spotting is similar though. The bird was certainly not shy though.
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Re: Nicator, Eastern

Unread postby Vlakvarkvrou » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:15 pm

When I look at the photos posted here, this is not one of the best :redface:

We saw this Yellow-spotted (Eastern) Nicator near the Pafuri picnic area on 29 July 2012. It was sitting between the feet of an impala who tried his utmost best to sniff at the bird. The bird never sit still and this was the only photo I could take before it disappeared in the bushes.

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Re: Nicator, Eastern

Unread postby Kingfisha » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:54 am

Well done Vrou,
I think there are many people who will envy you!

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Re: Nicator, Eastern

Unread postby warren k mckay » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:21 pm

pic taken marloth park july 2012,heard this one chirping in the bush next to my chalet, got a lot of pics but this is the best.
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Re: Nicator, Eastern

Unread postby Sharifa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:53 pm

Lovely photo wkm :thumbs_up:

@ VVV I would just be happy to see one :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby pnm » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:39 pm

Thanks, Lizet - that was a very unexpected tick!
I now have two LBJs that I must send to the LBJ column, but thanks to all who helped me here.

Hello Wildtuinman - I did get a Nicator and here is the proof - it is really a beautiful bird.
For you, Wildtuinman - the first and only one I have ever seen and it was a brief sighting. I was lucky.

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Unread postby anne-marie » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:24 pm

what magnificent bird :clap:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby hilda » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:08 am

Awesome pnm! :clap: :clap:
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Re: Nicator, Eastern

Unread postby LaeveldLeeu » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:20 pm

Just to confirm Josh of the Bushveld sighting in 2011. I have seen the Nicator in Berg en Dal at the swimming pool 25 Sept 2014 and my dad in law got photos to prove.

If you need to tick this bird then try B&D.

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Re: Nicator, Eastern

Unread postby Josh of the Bushveld » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:00 am

LaeveldLeeu wrote:Just to confirm Josh of the Bushveld sighting in 2011. I have seen the Nicator in Berg en Dal at the swimming pool 25 Sept 2014 and my dad in law got photos to prove.

If you need to tick this bird then try B&D.

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