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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:52 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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My thinking was that it is a juvenile Steppe Buzzard. Some things didn't add up to Long-legged for my own liking.
I then send the pics to Trevor Hardaker (hope you don't mind, just thought somebody more experienced than ourselves should look at it) last week and this is what he had to say:

Trevor wrote:
This is obviously a young bird based on the pale iris, so that is where we must start. Unfortunately, all these buzzards are extremely variable in plumage, so there are few consistent features to use. However, this bird does not show a darkish vent typical of LLB and the overall impression is of a buzzard, rather than a small eagle which one would get if looking at a LLB. LLB’s also show an obvious white base to the primaries on the upperwing with only the inner 4 primaries being very thinly barred in the juveniles. This bird is not showing a truly white base to the primaries and also has broad barring across most of the primaries. The dark carpal patches also do not appear to be anywhere near dark and bold enough for LLB and the overall wing shape is too short and narrow for LLB. Therefore, in my opinion, this is a young Steppe Buzzard and not an LLB.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I only have two words to say:

Dick Forsman.

Get hold of him and ask him whether he reckons it is a Long-Legged Buzzard or not. If he doesn't know then no one will. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:06 am 
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Very interesting interview with Dick Forsman.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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The wing tips do not reach the tail tip. From what I understand from some of my readings on the net, a Steppe's reaches the tail tip and the Long-Legged not.

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