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 Post subject: Scrub-Robin: Karoo
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:58 am 
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Here's another confusing one! :? I saw these two birds in WCNP on 16 October 2007. I'm pretty sure that the one on the right is a Karoo robin, but the one on the left has me stymied!

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The bird on the left looks quite similar to the one on the right — except for that rufous tail! My first guess would be neddicky, but it has dark legs and it's too large. So my next guess is perhaps familiar chat — except for the eyebrow .... ? Can anyone help me with this one?

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Looks pretty god for Karoo Scrub-Robin to me. I wouldn't worry too much about the appearance of a rufous tail. The lighting on the bird is mostly from behind and there are even some blown out highlights on the tail. You can always expect colour anomalies when photographing a bird in such light.

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Thanks, deefstes, glad to know about light causing such confusing variations :roll: I certainly thought that it "ought" to be just another Karoo robin. Sometimes reviewing my photos closely (well) after the sighting begins to raise too many questions :wink: :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Stumped again! :wall: At first I'd thought that this was a lark or a pipit (partly because I first saw it on the ground), but it lacks a stripey breast and it has dark legs. So then I thought perhaps a prinia, but again, the dark legs, so now I'm wondering ... :hmz: Only other guess might be Cape grassbird? See in West Coast NP, 3 December 2008.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Sorry arks, no time to check books and say something semi-intelligent about this bird. But it looks like a Karoo Scrub-Robin. Waddayathink?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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JoelR wrote:
Sorry arks, no time to check books and say something semi-intelligent about this bird. But it looks like a Karoo Scrub-Robin. Waddayathink?

Thanks, Joel! I knew that I was missing something obvious. :wall: :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Pleasure arks :thumbs_up: Definately Karoo Scrub-robin...need to get to the Western Cape and do some birding...sooo many lifers!!! :D

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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
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A couple more that have me stumped, seen along the R407 north of Prins Albert (not sure whether this is considered Karoo or Klein Karoo?) on 6 October 2009. And also I had inadvertently — have NO idea how :roll: — set my camera for tungsten exposure, hence the "blue wash" on these pix :redface: :evil:

I'm thinking that this might be a Karoo robin, possibly a juvenile? altho the "edging" on the wings would indicate not?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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White throat patch -- 100% on the Karoo Scrub-Robin

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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The shape and colour don't look right for Karoo Scrub-robin to me. All the ones I saw in WCNP always looked dull brown above, slightly paler below with a prominent supercilium with a blackish, white-tipped tail (the white tips are always a give away if it flies away from you) the tail also always appeared quite long. The jizz of your bird looks more like a Cercomela chat to me, short tailed with very long legs but I wouldn't like to say which one!

You should be able to remove the colour cast easy enough in photoshop and crop in a bit more to make the bird a bit more of a frame filler.

Added a couple of Karoo Scrub-robins from WCNP for ref.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Tricky arks

Photo 1 I would say certainly looks like Karoo Scrub Robin. Not as pale below together with the white throat patch.

I must admit that I only have Sasol 3 with me and I haven't seen these species for years, thus my recollection of flight gizz and wing patterns is sadly lacking.

Not that this help.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hanno, many thanks for your detailed reply here. Because of the inadvertant tungsten setting :wall: I'm sure some details are distorted too.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Photo 1 is a Karoo Scrub-Robin.I am fairly certain of this.

Darker underside and white throat patch indicates the id of the photo.

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Thanks JenB and DuQues!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Many, many thanks, Hanno, for your above-and-beyond efforts with my pix — and for your definitive ID.

Those were the last of my "mystery birds" from my recent trip, and I find that I have added another 11 lifers to my list :dance:

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