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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:06 pm 
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Any body want to try this one. Seen on the in southern Freestate close to Ladybrand.

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Imax I agree :thumbs_up: imm. Lanner


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Barcud and Lizet, this confrims it then for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Falcon, Lanner
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Just a question on behavior please. KTP - Oct: I was watching a pair of lanner falcons one afternoon, and one of them swooped down and picked up a brown "thing" and carried it around awhile, then dropping it right beside the other falcon that seemed to be dust bathing. At first I thought it was presenting a "present" of some sort of prey to the other, but the other showed no interest. I drove closer and saw it was a dung "ball"...is this behavior typical, and if so, what was going on? Took this pic while it was beside the dung after dropping it, and it broke apart.

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 Post subject: Re: Falcon, Lanner
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Hi Africat,

My best guess is that the bird was looking for insects.

I have watched young Peregrines grab flowers (foxgloves) whilst they were perfecting their flying skills, and lifting clumps of grass then dropping them in the air and trying to catch them before they hit the ground. This behaviour was definetly aimed at honing their accuracy in flight. Your dird is not a recent fledgeling therefore food is the only thing I can come up with at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Falcon, Lanner
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I saw this bird, which I think is a Lanner Falcon, on the S41 (Gudzani Road) a few weeks ago.

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Also this one. Could it be a juvenile Eurasian Hobby?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Lizet. I would never have got it right myself!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Raptors continue to be "challenging" for me. With these two birds, both seen in KTP on 21 February 2010 (and both were quite a distance away, so pix are quite cropped), I'm debating whether they are rednecked falcons or lanner falcons.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Great sightings Arks, but I think both are Lanner Falcon's although still open for debate IMO.

I see on the Natworld website that Niall has recorded them mainly around the Nossob river area so I would love to know where exactly you saw these two sightings.

Unfortunately I can't place a link to a website where I can show you some pics of a Red-Necked Falcon, but hopefully someone with experience in seeing them can give you some more info.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yep,

Lanner Falcon first two pics, the black stripe below the eye is long enough to identify it as Lanner Falcon imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks, RJ, DD and Gregor!

DotDan wrote:
Great sightings Arks, but I think both are Lanner Falcon's although still open for debate IMO.

I see on the Natworld website that Niall has recorded them mainly around the Nossob river area so I would love to know where exactly you saw these two sightings.

The first was seen at Craig Lockhart waterhole, the 2nd closer to Urikaruus. Interestingly, wanderw, who was with me at the time, IDed the first bird as definitely a rednecked falcon (and she's seen plenty of them!), but when I looked at the photos, I began to have doubts :( :?

I've seen lanner falcons all over KTP, they would appear to be extremely common throughout that park.

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Unfortunately I can't place a link to a website where I can show you some pics of a Red-Necked Falcon, but hopefully someone with experience in seeing them can give you some more info.

:huh: :huh: :huh:

Since when can't you post a link to an additional helpful website?!? (Or is it that you don't know HOW to post a link? :? You imply that posting such a link isn't allowed ... but members post links to other websites all the time?)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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arks,
I posted a Rednecked falcon in Challenges no82, page 15, pic 5.
You will notice that the whole crown is rufous as well as the nape (malar stripe). The tail also has a black subterminal band not present in Lanner.

Hope it helps!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Since when can't you post a link to an additional helpful website?!? (Or is it that you don't know HOW to post a link? :? You imply that posting such a link isn't allowed ... but members post links to other websites all the time?)


We only forbid links to commercial websites, i.e. sites selling products or services, or running adverts for products, to prevent exploitation of this site for other peoples purposes. Links to sites with controversial or possibly offensive material will also not be allowed, nor exploitation of this site for other purposes.

Otherwise people are welcome to link to helpful sites which add to a conversation here. :thumbs_up:

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