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Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Moegaai » Wed May 20, 2009 10:32 am

Thanks for the great research RJ. I'm not going to go to that extent, but want to make a few points:

1. The colouration is fine to be AHH (there is a darker morph) and as RJ points out there are such vast variations in juveniles of ANY species.

2. The juv does not have the bare face, it gets this later. Also the eye and cere is spot-on for the dark morph.

3. As far as size is concerned, well I would actually dare to say that an AHH is definitely bigger than a Hadeda. Just remember that a Hadeda's dimensions are exaggerated due to the long bill and neck.

4. Really it also boils down to GISS that in my opinion can only be AHH.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Pjw » Wed May 20, 2009 5:39 pm

Thank you so much everyone for all the help and info for that ID :clap: :clap:
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Unread postby Rusty Justy » Wed May 20, 2009 6:08 pm

Always here to try an help :lol: :thumbs_up:
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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby Wild about cats » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:59 pm

Saw this juvenile at one of the waterholes on H1-8.

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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby TheunsH » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:51 am

Beautiful pictures of the Harrier Hawk everyone!! :clap: :clap:

We have spotted this one during July 2009 on the H7:

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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby Timepilot » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:24 am

We were lucky enough on our first walk this year at BnD to see one of these overhead at a relatively low height. Unfortunately the eye was quicker than the camera and did'nt get a good pic. While we were watching the Gymnogene a black breasted snake eagle swung through the air at the same time so we considered ourselves doubly lucky :D
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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby michel367 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:10 pm

We saw this one 3 weeks back in a tree getting a meal on the road from Orpen to Satara.
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Unread postby Lizet Grobbelaar » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:17 pm

:clap: Well captured michel367

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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby Sprocky » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:57 pm

:clap: Nice Michel! :thumbs_up: Stop worrying about the Bateleur, I have a Gymnogene that comes to my garden very often and have not got a shot of it yet. :(

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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby michel367 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:59 pm

Like with the doggies Sprock.
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Raptor ID please

Unread postby Tony T » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:40 pm

Could someone ID this raptor for me please. Its on the West Coast near WCNP.
Raptors observed in the area; Black Eagles, Black Harriers, Marsh Harriers, Jackal Buzzards, Lanner Falcons, Black Shouldered Kite, Rock Kestrels, in season Yellow Billed Kite and Steppe Buzzard.
The bird was in a shallow dive.
Excuse the photo quality.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:40 am

I don't see it matching any of the observed, looks like a form of Booted Eagle to me...........
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:12 am

I would agree. None of those mentioned.

BE are in the surrounds.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Johann » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:31 am

The clearly visible white shoulder patches points to Booted Eagle, distinguishes it from anything else.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby JOL » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:06 pm

Tony T wrote:Gentlemen thankyou - a Booted Eagle! I would never have guessed. BB I never new they were in the our area hence the reason I glossed over it in my Sasol Birds.
Here is another bird I took last year in the same area. Can you ID it too please?

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Hi Tony ,

Looks like a steppe buzzard to me.

I'm not so sure about your first photo though. Somehow it doesn't look like a booted eagle to me , but I'll try to take a closer look and get back to you on that.

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