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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:20 pm 
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I agree with familiar chat....

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Another entry in my ongoing familiar chat/chat flycatcher confusions. All three pix may in fact be of the same bird as they were taken within 3-4 minutes whilst sitting on my stoep at Grootkolk (but as it was over 3 months ago, I no longer remember definitely that it was the same bird — just that it's likely :roll: )

I'm thinking that these are a chat flycatcher? Seen in KTP in February 2010.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Arks

This looks like Familiar Chat, in particular from the second shot, which shows the orange in the tail feathers. Chat Flycatcher is larger with a more robust bill.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks, Niall, I'm still struggling with how to distinguish between the two — and I think that I often just get it backwards :wall:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Familiar Chat :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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The bar is sunlight, I check on the other pics I took.

Here are some more pics (he is such a cute guy):

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Thanks Jumbo!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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DB, are you sure that the last pic is the same bird? No stripes and white eyebrow to be seen :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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That last bird does not appear to be the same bird. It looks like a Familiar Chat?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Oh dear, I did get confused it seems! There was definitely a familiar chat in the area when I was taking these pics.

Thank you all you helpful folk here - as a 'newbie' birder, your help goes a long way to encourage and teach one! :clap:

Edit: Lesson ONE; look more closely at your bird pics .... rather obvious to me now they are different birds :redface: :D

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 Post subject: Re: Chat, familiar
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Just a key identification pointer when ID'ing this bird..

Familiar Chat has an upside down Black "T" on its tail when it spreads it, as apposed to the Upside down Black "V" Shape of the very similar Sickle Winged Chat 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Chat, familiar
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Will try look out for that, thanks :)

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 Post subject: Re: Chat, familiar
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Only a Pleasure :thumbs_up:

Saw some more of these birds today while out birding in the Schuverburge 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hi.

I would appreciate some help in IDing this bird: it was seen in Augrabies NP in October this year. It's bill seems longish and slightly decurved, It has a yellowish wash to its belly and flanks, it's outer upper tial feathers are buffy, the rest dark. I initially thought a sunbird, but it was the size of a Familiar Chat.

Please help....
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Can't say for sure but this bird has features of Familiar Chat - the rufous tail markings, large eye, giss etc but can't explain the bill overgrowth and yellow breast... :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I'm perplexed... it really does look like a familiar chat, except for that beak :hmz:
my only other guess would be an immature (female) dusky sunbird???

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