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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby gatita » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:04 pm

they were cropped already :redface: but cropped more

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:57 am

A very important feature is the outer retrices that appears to be white. This disqualifies both mountain and long-billed pipits. So, by process of elimination, I'll say we are left with African...
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby gatita » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:21 pm

thank you, Johan :gflower:

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Albert » Mon May 04, 2015 11:04 am

I photographed this in Kruger, more specifically in April on the Timbavati loop. According to me this is a Cisticola (stop me at any time if I stray…).
According to the information I have the Cisticolas in the KNP are limited to Zitting, Desert, Rattling, Red-faced, Rufous-winged, Croaking and Lazy Cisticolas and the Neddicky. This bird appears to be a large, long-tailed Cisticola with apparent markings on the back. This excludes the small, plain-backed Cisticolas, and therefore Neddicky and Red-faced can be excluded.
The bird appears to have a rufous crown and wing panel. This appears to exclude the Zitting and Desert, as they have distinctly streaked crowns and are small Cisticolas. This leaves Rattling, Rufous-winged, Croaking and Lazy. This bird was spotted on the Timbavati Loop, close to a river, but this does not constitute a wetland, which is typically where we would find Rufous-winged. Also, the tail does not appear to be gray, which would be the case for Rufous-winged. It does not appear to be large enough to be a Croaking (and the bill is not heavy enough?).
My reasoning therefore comes to a choice between Lazy and Rattling. According to Faansie’s book there is no rufous on the wings of the Lazy. This leaves Rattling Cisticola?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon May 04, 2015 11:54 am

Great process leads to a great outcome, Albert!
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Unread postby Karin Mitton » Mon May 04, 2015 8:16 pm

Saw cisticolas in the Skukuza / L.S. areas. I settled on lazy, but I will have another look and follow Albert's method and see if I stick to my ID or not!

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby jaffles » Sun May 17, 2015 12:57 pm

Hello all,

find this bird in Kgalagadi NP in February 2015.
I'm confused about the white bill, the eye ring,... Could it be a Quelea?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Sun May 17, 2015 3:23 pm

I'm guessing that your birdie may be a female (or possibly a juvenile) chestnutbacked sparrowlark ...
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Albert » Mon May 18, 2015 11:35 am

Two photographs of this LBJ: in the Shingwedzi area in early April 2015. First pic was quite aggressively edited (taken against a grey sky and the subject was quite dark in the original), second was the only one where I could get the bird in focus in the acacia tree. I am guessing that this is a juvenile weaver? If so, then my next guess would be Lesser masked or Southern masked weaver? It is difficult to see the eye colour and the legs just appear dark (not grey or pinkish) in the pictures. Or am I way off here?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Mon May 18, 2015 12:51 pm

Against the light the legs would appear to be different from the second shot where the legs show up dark grey. In both pix I see a light iris - lesser masked weaver... :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Albert » Wed May 20, 2015 11:54 am

Thanks JvR!
Now for the next one (second to last one of my April Kruger trip still needing ID).
This flycatcher was photographed next to a small stream en route from Phalaborwa to Mooiplaas.
We had, a few minutes earlier, seen a Grey Tit-flycatcher (tail fanning was unmistakable) which we did not photograph. When I saw this bird I originally thought it might be another one, but as I recall there was no tail fanning, nor do I really see white outer tail feathers in the photograph. I also don't see a white crescent above the eye, so I don't think this is an Ashy Flycatcher. There does appear to be streaking on the crown, so maybe this is most likely a Spotted Flycatcher?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Karin Mitton » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:17 pm

OK, after much soul-searching, deliberation and internet searches (on this forum as well), I am thinking that this bird is a Buffy Pipit.

Please confirm?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby salamanda » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:59 am

Is this possibly a Rattling Cisticola? Seen on between Mopani and Shingwedzi in June 2015.


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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Albert » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:48 pm

Can't believe I am actually attempting to assist with an ID on a Cisticola....but I would have expected some rufous on the wing for a Rattling? Maybe Lazy Cisticola? Difficult to judge the size and the bill is not visible, so I suppose we can also not discount the Croaking Cisticola
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby salamanda » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:53 pm

Thanks Albert.

I kind of ruled out Lazy because it has a plain back which my bird doesn't, and the Croaking because mine doesn't have a streaked crown and the head is quite rufous. Not sure if I have another pic that is of any use, but will have a look.


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