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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:38 pm 
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anne-marie: Can you tell me which book you purchased? I'd rather buy one that comes recommended, than to take a chance and end up with something that is lacking.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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anne-marie: Can you tell me which book you purchased? I'd rather buy one that comes recommended, than to take a chance and end up with something that is lacking.

Thanks a bunch :gflower:
:thumbs_up: this one was recomended to me too
it's "The Raptor Guide of Southern Africa" - Ulrich Oberprieler - ISBN 978-0-9921701-0-3

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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It is a brilliant book - I have it also.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yes, it is a fantastic book and not too pricey.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks so much for the recommendation. :gflower:

I will definitely pick it up in November when we return. Unfortunately, it's not available here :(


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I saw this lovely small raptor one gloomy and overcast morning along the H7 in mid-November 2014. In addition to the generally poor light, it was also well shadowed by its position in the tree. It was also positioned quite low in the tree, only a metre or so above the gournd. Is it perchance a Eurasian hobby?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Looks like Amur falcon with that barring on the sides...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks JvR :gflower: I should have looked at my field guide more closely :redface: :redface: (altho to me they do look quite similar, but i should have realised that it could be either/or)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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This one has me flummoxed :wall: I'd think that a black eagle would show both a white rump and a more distinct white V on the back, but that's the closest I come to what this bird might be. Am I missing something obvious? Seen (very far away) from my tent at Tamboti in mid-November 2014.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Steppe eagle?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Bush Baptist wrote:
Steppe eagle?

I suppose that's possible, but while I see that the steppe eagle may have a lighter patch on it's hind crown, I don't see that it would have the lighter patch on its back? :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Bush Baptist wrote:
Steppe eagle?


I think Bushy is on the money...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Johan van Rensburg wrote:
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Steppe eagle?

I think Bushy is on the money...

:thumbs_up: Thanks JvR. If you and BB both say steppe eagle, then I'm sure that it can be nothing else. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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That pale patch in the middle of the back is an occasional Steppe feature. Very helpful when they do have it. Together with the upper wing pattern formed by the pale bases of the primaries (a lighter panel beyond the carpal joint) and the nicely rounded tail, there are no other puzzle pieces (raptors) that get close to such a snug fit.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks so much for all the additional interesting and useful info, JvR :gflower: I've SO much still to learn!

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