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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:25 am 
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The white breast had me confused because my bird book pics didn't show that much white. Now I know it's a morph - thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Please can I have some help with the ID of this raptor seen in Kruger in Feb this year.
Maybe a pale Wahlberg's?
The bird was quite some distance away so this was the best we could get at full zoom.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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It is an Euroasian hobby???

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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and why not a Lanner :hmz:

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anne-marie wrote:
and why not a Lanner :hmz:


Probably because the OP has seen a lanner before, but a hobby would be a lifer :D

Seriously, a Eurasian Hobby would have rufous on the leggings. I agree, its a lanner.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Okay Anne-Mare and Son godin,

I agree :redface: - Although never saw one in Kruger before and so in this case at least a first for us. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Pumbaa wrote:
Okay Anne-Mare and Son godin,

I agree :redface: - Although never saw one in Kruger before and so in this case at least a first for us. :thumbs_up:


Son godin? :shock: :big_eyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like the move to the garden route has done wonders... :twisted:

Lanners are not uncommon in Kruger... they should probably seen as frequently as the Eurasian hobby.

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Son godin? :shock: :big_eyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had to look that up :)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Would appreciate help to ID this raptor.

We saw him in MZNP while we were there this weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Sharifa,
It could be a young Booted Eagle :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Just looking at the legs, it appears that the ankles, and possibly the rest of the leg (hidden) are naked. Normally the boot extends all the way down to the feet in the aquila eagles, which would possibly rule out booted. Have you considered one of the buzzards? Step or perhaps a young Jackal... Do have any pictures of the front of the bird to get a better ID.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Tell tale signs of a Booted Eagle is missing here lacking the distinct shoulder patches and like Adrian said, the feather's running down the leg.

My opinion is that it is a Juvenile Jackal Buzzard.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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adrianp wrote:
Step or perhaps a young Jackal... Do have any pictures of the front of the bird to get a better ID.


Sorry adrianp, just the one photo, unfortunately :(

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Could it possibly be a juvenile harrier?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Sharifa wrote:
Could it possibly be a juvenile harrier?


The overall bulkiness of the bird is more buzzard like than harrier. The body shape of a bird helps to put it intothe correct family group. With raptors, particularly juveniles, colour can be very variable and thus unreliable.

When was this picture taken? Winter would exclude a steppe buzzard.


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