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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:10 pm 
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Thanks for clarifying and for the additional interesting details, WTM :gflower: In that case, black sparrowhawk does seem the most likely :D

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I think this is a young Snake eagle.
Seen on 2 December 2014 near Shingwedzi.

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Looks like a juvenile black chested snake eagle


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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to me too, Black-chested Snake-Eagle, sub-adult

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Thanks for the help.
It is a new tick for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I saw this raptor near Olifants, KNP on 23 December.
Can't quite make up my mind what it is, as it was at a bit of a distance. Best photo I could take unfortunately.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Would appreciate help to ID this bird for us.

We thought it could possibly be a Lesser kestrel :hmz:

He flew into our passage yesterday afternoon. The passage has glass and only about a half a meter at the top of the glass is there opening and the poor bird could not find its way out again.
Philip caught it to release ...but needless to say, I first wanted to take some photos. Those talons did cause some bleeding though :lol: ...We have noticed him in the area for some time, but never this close. :dance:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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From what I can see, this is a 'her'... A female rock kestrel. The best angle would have been of the back, or open wing. However, I see some streaking on the carpal area of the wing as well as sooty brown flight coverts. A lesser kestrel (also female) would show dark barring in the carpal area and the flight coverts would be black.

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Johan van Rensburg wrote:
From what I can see, this is a 'her'... A female rock kestrel.

Thanks Johan :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yoda your raptor looks very much like a tawny, from the little that one can make out........


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Steppe or Tawney?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I'm going to stick my stiffneck out and say Steppe because the gape goes virtually to the end of the eye and the nostril is round.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I agree with salamanda, definitely a Steppe naomi c! I'm so chuffed with myself to see the difference between the Steppe and the Tawny! This doesn't happen often! (Hope we are correct!) :tongue:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I hope so too - then I can at last tick off Steppe Eagle!! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Surely a very good candidate, but I am not so sure :hmz:

Salamanda, Steppe Eagle should have an oval shaped nostril, it is Tawny that has the more rounded nostril

This Eagle also looks very rufous to me and not the more uniformly dark color of a Steppe.

Lastly I don't believe the gape extension is a good ID feature here as I think the way the bird is perhaps sitting is creating an illusion that the gape is extending.

Anyway, my 5c's worth, let's hear what others have to say. (These BBJ's are not easy)


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