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Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:52 pm 
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Hi ice, not a Snake Eagle at all. A Snake Eagle has no feathers on the legs and has these distinctive eyes as seen below.
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and Wahlbergs does not occur in Kgaligadi.

IMHO, your bird is a juvenile pale form Tawny Eagle.

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Once again....me...

Is this a Brown Snake Eagle or Tawny Eagle?

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I read in my Sasol book about the line reaching from the bottom of the eye to the end...not sure where it starts or where it stops,,,, :redface:

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I would say it's a Tawny Eagle. The gape reaches to the middle of the eye. Again the colour of the eye is also a good pointer. Your Snake-eagles have bright yellow eyes and the bird in your pic is showing a dark eye.

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Hi MGoddard,

Snake-eagles differ from other Eagles in three main features:
1. Their legs are bare.
2. Their eyes are bright yellow
3. Their heads are quite big and round

Based on this it is easy to see that your first bird is a Snake-eagle and your seond bird not.

Once you know that the first one is a Snake-eagle it's no challenge at all to identify it down to species level. In fact, I'll leave that to you :wink:

The second one is a little bit more tricky as are all the brown Aquilas (although they do get more difficult than this one). Don't be discouraged if you struggle identifying a brown Aquila. This one is a Tawny Eagle and yes, the extent of the gape certainly is a feature to use when seperating these. A Steppe-Eagle would have had a gape extending all the way to the back of the eye. The Lesser Spotted Eagle would also have had a deeper gape than this one but not quite as far as the Steppe.

Other very important things to use when identifying these birds are distribution and time of year. If you see a bird like this in Kruger in Winter then it can only be Tawny Eagle as both the other two as well as Wahlberg's Eagle will be in Europe then.

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Hi MGoddard,
Other very important things to use when identifying these birds are distribution and time of year. If you see a bird like this in Kruger in Winter then it can only be Tawny Eagle as both the other two as well as Wahlberg's Eagle will be in Europe then.


Unfortunately dont have a pic at hand, but on a morning drive at Olifants Camp last year, in July, we spotted a bird high up in a tree, close to the road.. and was told by our guide that it was a "Wahlberg's Eagle"!!...based on what you said above I'd liked to know are they in Kruger during July or Not???

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Mgoddard wrote:
Unfortunately dont have a pic at hand, but on a morning drive at Olifants Camp last year, in July, we spotted a bird high up in a tree, close to the road.. and was told by our guide that it was a "Wahlberg's Eagle"!!...based on what you said above I'd liked to know are they in Kruger during July or Not???


Well, I can't say it will never never never ever happen but Wahlberg's Eagle DOES NOT occur in KNP in winter. Being intra-African migrants they don't migrate as far north as the Lesser Spotted and Steppe Eagle so they tend to leave a little later and arrive a little earlier than the other migratory eagles. It has also been recorded that some juveniles don't migrate all the way to northern Africa as the adults do but remain south of the equator. Some have been recorded as far south as Zimbabwe but I think KNP would be a bit of a stretch.

Unfortunately some of the guides at KNP don't always know as much as they pretend to. I've been on a night drive where the guide pointed out the reflecting eyes of a Lesser Bushbaby in a tree when in fact it was a European Nightjar. I've also been on a drive where the guide pointed out a Malachite Kingfisher calling it a Pygmy Kingfisher.

So I will not at all be surprised to hear that some guides find Wahlberg Eagles in winter. I should think that, if the guide really knew Wahlberg's Eagle, he would also have known that it would be EXCEPTIONAL to see it in winter and make all sort of backflips and immediately call other guides to inform them. If he just casually pointed the bird out and drove on, he was probably smoking his socks.

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I have seen one on the 9th of august this year.
some birds tend to come back to SA early august, so depending on the weather or many other things, it is possible to see one in July ...

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Help with ID please :pray: ….seen at Mpondo dam
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Looks like young tawny to me, jumbo.

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As much as it hurts I would've have to agree with wildtuinman. Looks to be an immature Tawny.
Seen a photo similar to the one in flight on Robert's Multimedia.

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photographed in Kgalagadi

tawny eagle?

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Not a clear photo - especially the face ...

but yes, looks like a tawny. :wink:

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Yes, it does look like the pale form of the Tawny Eagle.

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This is one of many Raptors sighted in Kruger from 3-11sep. Could this be a Tawny Eagle (streaked form). Sighted 07sep 10k's south of Satara.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:58 am 
I’m completely useless when it comes to raptors, please help me out with a few sightings we had last week:
Forgive the quality of the shots, the exposure on the whole bunch is terrible.

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Might this be the Stripped form of the Tawny? There were actually two of them that looked the same.

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