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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:54 am 
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Hi Friedrich

MZNP does at this moment have a stable cheetah population and we would not like to tamper with the population and remove animals at this stage to introduce to Karoo NP. The fact of too much inbreeding is always a concern and Karoo NP would firstly like to source cheetah from other populations not linked to the MZNP population. This will make it possible at a later stage to swop animals/individuals between the two Parks to enhance genetic variability.

MZNP did have a rapid growth in the cheetah population but then we moved a large number of cheetah out of the Park to private game reserves in order to bring the population down to a number that would be most suitable for the Park. Therefore it does not have excess cheetah at the moment.

The sourcing of animals from Namibia is not part of our planning. RSA still has sufficient wild cheetah in the North West and Limpopo Provinces. The sourcing of animals from other countries, and with animal health restrictions in place (quarantine periods etc.) between countries, is always a very long process with lots of intergovernmental issues and we would rather go for the option of sourcing cheetah locally. Animals are regularly caught on farms and handed over to the Endangered Wildlife Trust whom in return is looking for homes for the cheetah. It will take a while to source cheetah but I am sure we will find suitable animals to introduce to the Karoo NP.

We will also look at the welfare of the animals first and to transport cheetah from as far as Namibia can put a lot of stress on wild cheetahs. The shorter the transport time the better for the animals.

I trust this has answered your question.

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Fayroush Ludick - Frontier Communications Manager


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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:13 pm 
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:D :D :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:09 am 
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Location: The country of compromises
in '99 when I first visited SA

Addo: 0 apex predators (except maybe that 1 leoprad that was never seen).
MZNP: 0 apex predators
Karoo NP: 0 apex predators

Today

Addo: lion and Hyena
MZNP: cheetah and soon lion
Karoo: Lion and soon cheetah

Not to mention the brown hyean reintrodictions in Karoo and MZNP

Exciting years @ Frontier Parks I would say...

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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:14 am 
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We will be visiting Karoo National Park 26-27-28 July 2013 :dance:

What are the odds of seeing the lions :hmz:

.....In which area of the park have they been released, or should I say, in which area are they successfully hunting presently :cam:

Any Mites been there recently and have some insight as to where they may be, or may have seen them.. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:34 am 
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The best area to find them is on the 4x4 routes - Kookfontein and Embizweni areas. One of the males and a female (mating) did move quite far away from that area towards the Doornhoek valley. I saw some photos taken by one of the ex-Honorary Rangers near the picnic site of the lovey-dovey couple.

But people who were camping next to us saw lions on the old Kookfontein farm yard on 24 May and another couple saw two females with the new cubs not far away from the Embizweni turn-off just one day earlier.

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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:43 pm 
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Thanks Stoffel :thumbs_up:

Looks like they are visible :cam:

Looking forward to the visit. :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:57 pm 
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Hallo GlynB!
We stayed over @ Karoo Nat Park 3 weeks ago.
What a wonderful reception! All the staff were very friendly and helpful
As soon as we entered the Park, we saw lots of antelopes.
We decided to go to the picnic area for some coffee.(Doornhoek)
We were still in the picnic area when we heard a loud ROAR!
We were very lucky to hear and then saw a big Lion.
He walk in front of our car for about 3 km. Towards Afsaal turnoff.
That night , rather early the next morning , we were surprised to hear two lions close to camp.
Maybe it was the first time.
A truly wonderful stay.
Hope you find it as exiting and rewarding as we did. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:52 pm 
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Thanks OomDaan :thumbs_up:

Now I am starting to get excited :dance: :big_eyes: :cam:

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 Post subject: Re: Karoo NP to introduce lions to mark 30th anniversary
Unread postPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:02 am 
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I was at Karoo NP yesterday, and did not see a lion, but the guys at the gate said one young Kgalagadi male is spending most of his time close to the entrance gate on the first loop around Bulhoek? picnic site. He was seen there on Thursday am, but we missed him in the pm.
The rest of the lions were apparantly near Sandrivier, but I was pressed for time, so missed them too. At least there are now 2 separate "groups" of lions, which doubles the chances of seeing them!
Where are the cheetahs?

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