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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:39 am 
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Had a wonderful couple of days at Darlington Lodge several years ago.
Had hoped to stay again in 2010 but it was apparently closed.
Any idea what the future holds for the lodge?
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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:46 pm 
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JDW wrote:
WarthogB
Had a wonderful couple of days at Darlington Lodge several years ago.
Had hoped to stay again in 2010 but it was apparently closed.
Any idea what the future holds for the lodge?
Regards
JDW


Hi JDW - For the foreseeable future it will remain closed - I have managed to keep one room in a usable state for myself when doing duty there. With a new project starting up the conference room has had a bit of restoration and is used for staff training and lectures,

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:21 pm 
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Hi All

Would anyone possibly know how many lion are left in Addo and which ones?


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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
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Readles wrote:
Hi All

Would anyone possibly know how many lion are left in Addo and which ones?

same here!


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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
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Sabi009 wrote:
Readles wrote:
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Would anyone possibly know how many lion are left in Addo and which ones?

same here!


There is 9

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:05 pm 
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I hope to visit Addo next weeek, the first time in 18 months. One of the main reasons I don't go there so regularly is because the lionesses at Addo have been put on contraceptives for the past few years, with NO cubs now for at least 3-4 years...

That is BORING!

Would somebody be so kind as to forget to give them their tablets one month so they can have some fun and we can have something more interesting to look at?
Just joking -- I know they were injected and it lasted at least 2 years -- but surely its about time they did what the Karoo NP lions did, they just went and got pregnant behind the Sanparks officials' backs anyway!

Last count from Megan a year or two ago was 17 hyenas and 9 lions. I hope it is not 30 hyenas v 9 lions now....

Could somebody please give us the latest score? Seriously.

I am also rather curious to see how much Vali Moosa's tusks have grown since I saw him in April last year...

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:41 pm 
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We're glad to report that at last census earlier this year, Addo tallied 11 adult lion. Only six hyena were spotted, but there should be more than that - around 17.

Fayroush Ludick
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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:57 pm 
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Dear Fayroush,

Thanks very much for the feedback. Can you please confirm how many lion are in the Main game area. I have heard that it is 6 (4 males and 2 females), with 3 in Nyathi section and 2 in the Kuzuko concession, which does indeed total 11.

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:06 pm 
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Hi Pat

Your numbers are completely accurate.

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:02 pm 
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Thanks Fayroush,

Which means more joy for people who visit Nyathi.

And still means that seeing a lion at Addo is like looking for a needle in a haystack...again.
* Originally exactly 6 lions were imported from Kgalagadi for the main game viewing area, but the males spent most of their time near Scotia safaris looking at female lions on the fence line, so seldom seen.
* Then came the first cubs, and suddenly game viewing was much more exciting because Marion Baree area was excellent for Kamqua, Gina and cubs!
* Then we doubled the size of the game camp by including Matyholweni, still with the same number of lions.
* Then we contracepted the females to reduce breeding rate and save the expensive disease-free buffalo.
* Then we moved Nossob, Bitterbal, Kamqua and Megan plus cubs to Karoo NP, and Tsamma and Kalahari to other places, and now 3 young males to Nyathi as well.
So the wheel has turned completely, and we are back with 6 lions in double the space... which translates into zero lion sightings in my last 4 outings to Addo over about 7 days. At least we heard them roaring from the main camp at night, and that was very special.

Question: Could you tell us if those 2 females are still on contraceptives, and whether you think 6 lions is enough for such a vast area as the main camp game viewing area?

Thank you so much,

Friedrich von Hörsten

Ps. Reason for interest -- I love Addo, and the addition of super predators turned Addo from a safari park to a proper national park. I always take my school photography club there on tour, but haven't for the last 2 years because of the miniscule chance of seeing big predators there -- rather took them to Kgalagadi this year.
I am planning a trip for April next year, but it seems as if I need to take them somewhere else again.

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
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Well we must have been very lucky, we were in Addo for 3 days and saw lion on 2 of those days :dance: :dance:

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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:58 am 
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Patto wrote:
Can you please confirm how many lion are in the Main game area. I have heard that it is 6 (4 males and 2 females)

I thought there were 9 lion in main game area. I saw 5 of them in one morning back in September... if that was 5 out of 6 I would be very surprised.

Fayroush could you perhaps check that your information is correct? WarthogB said in September that there are 9 as well. Have 3 been moved out of the main game area recently?


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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:31 pm 
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My apologies all. The numbers I quoted were for those spotted during the census. The full figures are: Addo has 9 lion in main camp. This amount is based on available prey and size of territories. Two females are not on contraception.


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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:16 pm 
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Thanks for the information. Does the 9 in the 'main camp' include the ones in Nyati? I thought there were 3 females rather than 2 - Aardlam, Gina & Josie?


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 Post subject: Re: Addo Lions
Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:47 pm 
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There are three females in main camp - Gina, Aardlam and Josie.

The nine I referred to do not include the Nyathi population.

All females have received contraception for a two year period. Both Josie and Gina have been removed from the contraception project. They could have or will give birth soon.


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