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 Post subject: Re: First Time Kgalagadi
Unread postPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:13 pm 
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@jakoventer: when are you going to the park?

I'd like to get to all the way from Jo'burg to TR in one day, but not sure if we'll make it the whole way, will probably book accommodation in Upington (and possibly cancel it if we get there early enough).

Mods, there are at least 2 of these beginner threads, perhaps a merge is in order?

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 Post subject: Lots of questions for first time Kgalagadier
Unread postPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:07 pm 
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Hello everybody,
I am planning my first trip to the Kgalagadi Game reserve and would like to spend about a week there.
I have a lot of questions and hope that you guys can help.
1. I will be in a Hyundai Tucson (not 4x4, no dif lock etc), can I do it without getting stuck?
2. I do not want to get stuck on wet roads so when is the best time for no rain?
3. Which camps should I try for, I think 3 camps over 6 nights should be sufficient, but which are good ones? My thoughts are:
a. Twee rivieren on our first night
b. Then 2 nights are Urikaruus or Kalahari Tented camp
c. Then 2 or 3 nights at Nossob
d. Last night at KielieK / Twee rivieren again
4. Is petrol available at all the camps?
5. Can I buy wood/charcoal and water in the camps if I run out?
6. I have seen a few people mention punctures, and someone even mentioned bringing extra spare tyres;-) How do I not get punctures;-)
7. If I get stuck, what is the best thing to do?
I am not sure if this is off topic but I will be driving from Natal, staying over in Kimberley, (to see the Big Hole) and then I would also like to spend a night at Augrabies (either before or after Kgalagadi). Are there any other places that would warrant a visit in the area? (If yes, please PM me)

Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Lots of questions for first time Kgalagadier
Unread postPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:48 pm 
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Hi josey, nice to see you are one of many going to 'the promised land' for the first time (of many).

1. Yes. You haven't said when, but I have seen sedans manage in the rainy season mud.
2. Late April to October is the dry season, but it could rain any time.
3. Looks fine to me.
4. Only at 2R, MM & Nossob.
5. There is a large recepticle full of wood packs at 2R, and MM & Nossob also sell it.
6. I have never had a puncture there in 8 visits. Make sure your tyres are in good nick and take your puncture repair kit. I also carry one of those aerosol jobbies. You will be deflating your tyres on the roads anyway.
7. Sit tight. Take enough food & drink for 3 days in the car. (that should guarantee that you don't get stuck) Every time you exit camp, you take your permit at the gate and write in a book your route. The theory is that they will come looking for you if you don't arrive. (Note to self - remember next time to tell KG that I volunteer to look for those lost with him). I have actually seen the guys at Nossob leaving camp on the way to help somebody who was stuck.

Stay at Augrabies. The night rides there have been cooking recently. :thumbs_up:

Hope this helps. Anything else, just ask.

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 Post subject: Re: Lots of questions for first time Kgalagadier
Unread postPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:18 pm 
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Hi josey

Welcome!

BB has pretty much covered everything. Just wanted to add something regarding your concerns about the Tucson. A couple of years ago my husband and I went up in a Tucson 4x2...in Feb. The day before we were to drive from Urikaruus to Grootkolk, we get told they have had thunderstorms of note north of Nossob and the roads are flooded. Now we were quite worried we wouldn't make it, get stuck etc. Anyway next morning we left Urikaruus bright and early to give ourselves ample travel time incase we got stuck. There were some sticky patches but the Tucson coped very well, and we pulled into Grootkolk with plenty of time to spare. The camp attendant mentioned our neighbouts were also due to arrive that day, but hadn't checked in yet...a little later we heard a car pull up...our neighbours must be here...wonder what 4x4/SUV they have...took a peek...parked next to our Tucson was a....Atos! It made it up with no problems, said the french lady that climbed out, together with her 80 year old mother!! The Atos won my respect that day...and so did french ladies!


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of questions for first time Kgalagadier
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Deflating you tyres to about 1.4 helps a lot.

The roads are not bad, in fact some are good, it is just when they are corrugated and need grading.

So wear a sports bra and make sure your false teeth are in tight.

The water there is brackish, so most people take their own to drink & cook.

The park is 'open', meaning you can see far, so there is no bush to obstruct sightings.

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 Post subject: Another (very excited) KTP firsttimer(s)
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Hi all,

We are very busy planning our next trip to South Africa, March next year. My first visit was February this year and I'm still feeling somesick. We (that's me and my aunt) visited Marakele, Mapungubwe and Kruger. We absolutely loved the unfenced camps in Marakele and Mapungubwe. We started preparing for our next trip the day after we came home :mrgreen:

I started reading this forum (found so much information and fantastic pictures) and got really excited about KTP, we both did. So, here's our intinarary:

27 March: Twee Rivieren (= day 9: we start off at Marakele (we have to, it's magical), then Pilanesberg, overnight stay 1 near Vryburg and overnight stay 2 in Spitskop)
28: TR » KTC
29: KTC
30: KTC to Nossob
31: Nossob eco trail (not sure yet, waiting for Jan Kriel to get back to us on that, he's out on the trail right now, really really hope so)
1: trail
2: trail
3: trail ends to TR
4: Kieliekrankie (booked)
5: Grootkolk (booked)
6: Nossob (but trying to get reservation at Polentswa Botswana side)
7: TR
8: to Spitskop overnight stay
9: overnight stay haven't decided yet
10: Joho, back home, followed by chronic homesickness :shock:

We will be driving a Toyota Hilux double cab with 2 rooftents (apart from the wilderness camps in KTP we will be camping). We are not very experienced in 4x4 driving but we will make sure we are when we get there. We have a lot of dunes here (Netherlands), training starts in two weeks. We want to be prepared, no use in renting a 4x4 when you don't know how to drive it.

We like to take it slow, we don't want to cover too much km in a day. We take the time to stop and enjoy whatever is there. Game, birds, flowers, views and even dung. Have you ever taken a close look at a fresh pile of elephant of rhino dung? Fascinating, an abundance of life in and up there, beetles, butterflies etc.
Stocking up on water, fuel, food, wood etc. isn't a problem, we know when and where (also thanks to the information on this forum!).

What I would like to know:

- there is a map of Kgalagadi on the Sanparks website. Does this map show all of the roads, trails, in the park?
- offcourse I would like to know what you think about our itinarary
- Suppose the Nossob 4x4 trail isn't an option, what do you think we should we do? What about the Bitterpan or Gharagab 4x4 trails, how do they compare to the eco trail?

Kind regards,
Katja


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 Post subject: Re: Lots of questions for first time Kgalagadier
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:11 am 
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Josh & Josey,


a Puncture repair kit you can purchase at any motor parts shop (Midas etc) and consist of:

1 x Tool with a handle to ream the puncture hole in the tyre a bit bigger
1 x Tool with a handle and a hole through the tip (similar to a large needle) to push the repair plug through the hole
1 x tube of solution
a few plugs (also called "snot" plugs)

What you do is the following:

Locate the puncture on the tyre - can only be used for punctures / holes on the tread of the tyre and not for sidewall cuts etc

Pull out whatever caused the puncture with a pair of pliers

Use the 1st tool mentioned above to ream out the hole in the rubber - push it in through the puncture hole and twist it clockwise/anti clockwise a couple of times until it moves in and out freely

Take one of the plugs, pull it through the hole in the tip of the 2nd tool mentioned above so that you have equal lengths on either side

Put a bit of solution on the plug as well as a bit in the hole

Push the plug through the hole to the inside of the tyre so that the 2 ends of the plug is still visible on the outside

Then give the tool a twist and pull it out fast - the tool normally has a sharp edge that will cut the plug so that you do not pull the plug out again.

Pump the tyre to the desired pressure - I would suggest first pump it to around 2.5 bar to get the plug to settle nicely and then wait 5 minutes and then deflate to the desired pressure - normally around 1.2 bar for the Kgalagadi roads.

Good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Another (very excited) KTP firsttimer(s)
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Welcome to the forum Katja.

In the unlikely event of the Nossob trail not working out, staying in Nossob would be a great alternative.

You could do a day trip to Union's End, also visit Marie se Draai, which I have found to be on of the 'hottest' areas of the park. The Nossob pride is usually around the camp somewhere.

And the hide can be brilliant.

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 Post subject: Re: Another (very excited) KTP firsttimer(s)
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Leaving TR for Kieliekrankie, consider driving the Leeudril 4x4 route, it takes you across the dunes from the Nossob river side to the Auob river side.

This is an unguided trail, you book & pay at TR reception, but very easy to drive with no real challenges but beautiful surroundings as well as some game.

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 Post subject: Nightdrives KTP
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I and the SO will be in KTP in Aug/September
We wish to go and a night /sunset drive in Nossop. Should I book now and are they still doing night drives in KTP ??? We will also be in Tweerivieren and Matamata
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 Post subject: Re: Nightdrives KTP
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Hi Elizabeth,

Have a look here

Enjoy every moment......... :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Polentswa or Rooiputs?
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See the Rooiputs lodge from the road HERE

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 Post subject: Re: Polentswa or Rooiputs?
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Thanks BB I've been looking for that :redface: :slap: :gflower:

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 Post subject: Help for December KTP trip
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Hi all,

My husband and I are going to KTP in December. The plan is 2 night KK, 1 night Nossob, 2 nights Grootkolk and 1 night Nossob. Although we have done self drive and camping in SA, Namibia and Botswana, we have never been to KTP before. We are coming from the UK and will be flying into Uppington from JNB.

I am going through previous posts to help with logistics. However, I am posting my questions here so that everyone can benefit from the latest advice.

- Any recommendations for accommodation in Uppington? We are going to need 1 night on the way in and on the way out of KTP. We don’t need anything fancy, just somewhere clean and safe to park the car.

- Any specific place recommended for buying meat, drinking water and wood?

- We need to buy gas bottles like the ones here - http://www.outdoorwa...tridges-en.html Where would I be able to find these in Uppington?

- Along with a 4X4 hire, is it advisable to hire a fridge in the car? We will be carrying folding cool boxes with us. Is a flash light useful? If so, I will need to find out if that can be hired as well. I read on the forum that a puncture repair kit can come in handy. Where can we buy it in Uppington?

- Do all the camps we are staying at (KK, Nossob and Grootkolk) have fridge and freezers? How about cooking utensils? Do all of them have electricity?

- We have heard about night drives conducted from Nossob. What is the best way to pre-book a night drive? Does anyone know how much they cost? Would love to hear if anyone has experience of the night drive.

- Any trips for dealing with hot weather, especially during the night inside the tents?
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Help for December KTP trip
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Hi Kavita,

For all your Upington questions, I suggest you ask the most helpful Lion queen, who lives there.

Drinking water ( at a price) and wood are available in abundance at 2R.

Definitely get a fridge in the 4x4.

Flashlight/torch is a must. You can get one from Midas that is a big motor spares outlet where you can get the puncture kit, and some jock to explain (in Afrikaans :twisted:) how to use it.

If you are not camping, your unit will have a fridge with freezer compartment & utensils. KK & Grootkolk use solar, and the genny at Nossob is turned off from 23h00 to 5h00.

I have never had a 'full' night rides at Nossob. There is a pride that lives around Nossob - see webcam threads, and you often find them. Owls and nocturnal animals are also regular sightings.

Hot nights. Shower & don't dry yourself. If you can't sleep, shower again. There are ceiling fans at Grootkolk & Nossob to stand under (never stayed at KK).

Just a word of warning, you WILL go back.

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