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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:49 pm 
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Thanks for the interest. It is a 4Motion model which means it does have 4 wheel drive but does not have low range or anything like that. It has about 200mm ground clearance. Fortuner has 220 mm.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Aidan, the times that we have gone to Gharagab, we have never used low range..... :dance: :dance: So that should not be a problem.

We haven't been to Bitterpan so I can't comment on that.

Hope this helps a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Thank you. If anyone knows the Bitterpan road, let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Hi aidan3333,
When I have gone to Bitterpan, i used low range … but I am a beginner in 4x4 driving.
Be sure some experts will give you advices.
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 Post subject: What are the Dune Roads?
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Hello all, and apolgies for what could be a silly question.

I am preparing for my first trip to the Kgalagadi, (9 sleeps till my arrival in Twee Rivieren - you might say I am a mite excited about the prospect :dance: ).

When reading trip reports and other posts, mention is made of upper and lower dune roads and I can't quite figure what is being refered to when I look at the map of the park.

Are they the roads that run between Kamqua - Dikbaardskolk (upper) and Auchterlonie - Kij Kij (lower)?

Thanks all

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 Post subject: Re: What are the Dune Roads?
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ROOKIE-LR wrote:
Are they the roads that run between Kamqua - Dikbaardskolk (upper) and Auchterlonie - Kij Kij (lower)?

Yip, that's correct Rookie-LR :) Welcome and have a great trip!

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 Post subject: Re: What are the Dune Roads?
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ROOKIE-LR enjoy your trip. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: What are the Dune Roads?
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And - they are but gravel roads that are easily traversed........Just keep to your side of the road!

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:17 pm 
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Hello aidan
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If anyone knows the Bitterpan road, let me know.

We have driven the Bitterpan road.

Part of the info for the camp reads
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It is strictly a 4x4 route, but BIG 4x4’s such as Unimogs (heavy vehicle 4x4) are not allowed.

see : http://www.sanparks.org/parks/kgalagadi/tourism/accommodation.php#wilderness
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Guests should consider staying at Nossob before their departure for Bitterpan, as it is an approximately 3 hours drive from Nossob along a one-way 4x4 route.


We used low range I think twice on our way from Nossob to Bitterpan, (road was badly "dug out" on some dunes)
should possibly have used it once on the Morevet route as there was a very bad patch where vehicles had obviously got bogged down in wet weather, and we used it on the Bitterpan to Craig Lockhart route -- mainly to pull another vehicle out.

So yes, I do think a 4X4 is necessary for Bitterpan :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: What are the Dune Roads?
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Hello all.

Thanks for the feed back and kind wishes.

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 Post subject: Re: What are the Dune Roads?
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Just an added tip -- just take it easy on the dune roads -- some folk do tend to speed :sniper: :roll:

They are surfaced, not just sand, and are like a roller-coaster ride -- up and over one dune at a time :lol:

The problem is that at the very top of the dune, the road sometimes wears thin and you have a sandy patch which is also a dip. :shock:

Look for steenbok, gemsbok babies, ostrich babies and korhaan and enjoy your trip :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:36 pm 
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aidan3333 wrote:
Thanks for the interest. It is a 4Motion model which means it does have 4 wheel drive but does not have low range or anything like that. It has about 200mm ground clearance. Fortuner has 220 mm.


The road in to Gharagab is pretty straightforward. On the way out there a few dunes that might be tricky for someone not accustomed to sand driving.

We went in a vehicle that has the same ground clearance but does have low range - nice insurance!

The answer is: if you know how to drive in sand, you should be ok.

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 Post subject: SHORTCUT FROM NOSSOB TO MATA MATA
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I am going to KTP for the first time in September and booked time at Nossob & Mata Mata (SO loves Giraffes) to get from one to the other I thought you had to drive from Nossob back to TR and then up to Mata Mata which is a long drive and a petrol gussler (V8 Defender).

I see that there is a road via Bitterpan but am led to believe that you have to spend 1 night at Bitterpan in order to use it. Any reason why - with the petrol price it would be very kind if SAN Parks would let it be used to get to Mata Mata as long as you have a booking there.

Anyone fill me in on the proper situation? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: SHORTCUT FROM NOSSOB TO MATA MATA
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Hello DSouter
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to get from one to the other I thought you had to drive from Nossob back to TR and then up to Mata Mata which is a long drive and a petrol gussler (V8 Defender).

Forunately not :lol: The easiest way from Nossob to MataMata is down to Dikbaardskolk, then over the upper dune road to Kamqua and then to MataMata.

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I see that there is a road via Bitterpan but am led to believe that you have to spend 1 night at Bitterpan in order to use it. Any reason why -

Yes -- it is a wilderness camp and the roads to/from wilderness camps (and the camps themselves) are for residents only :lol:

But do yourself a favour and spend a night at Bitterpan -- had a couple of brown hyena sightings there ....

Have a great trip :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: SHORTCUT FROM NOSSOB TO MATA MATA
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I have tried to book at Bitterpan for the night of the 15/9 but at present there are no bookings - hoping for a cancellation! :cry:

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