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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:59 pm 
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Walking without permission is in KTP not allowed :naughty: Therefor not the best Idea... . Without the Park I would agree, first of all check up the situation. and then drive... .

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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Nov Eco trail. Hopefully there'll be a landy, a toyota, a nissan and others (no jeeps necessary!!) all under the same conditions.


Weskusklong, glad our "brand" has not been mentioned, going on the trip with our "not mentioned" vehicles so we have no pressure! :D

A 4x4 thread, now that will be interresting, I'm already on two other 4x4 forums, I guess a third one will make things even more interresting! :geek:

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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Weskusklong, glad our "brand" has not been mentioned, going on the trip with our "not mentioned" vehicles so we have no pressure!


Hi Switchback,

I know you WILL DELIVER. :wink: I've got a interesting site for you to check out about the W.... 4X4XFAR. :thumbs_up:

http://www.my4x4.co.za/Eng/story.html

PS. We did also drove one of those Suzie girls and the car was nearly sold by Nissan before they gave us our new car. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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Oh, you mean THAT story, the one about the guy that didn't know how to pack his bakkie, went through a dip too quick and bent the chassis? Any double-cab bakkie packed with all the weight at the far back and going with speed through a dip will do damage, I seem to recall that Toyota Hilux with the broken chassis never mind a bent chassis on this site...? :slap:

I have a spare wheel carrier on the back of my replacement bumper and I hate putting so much weight on the far back, luckily the new "WILL DELIVER" bakkies slogan is GO BIG - their built extra strong! :dance:

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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TheunsH wrote:
This is a great thread, can't we have a 4x4 thread? :hmz:

I also think this is a great thread. :thumbs_up:
Mind if we split the general 4x4 discussion off to it's own thread in Advice needed (Not Park Specific) where you guys can happily continue? :wink:
Just to get back on topic here. :)

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Hi Jen. please do! :clap: :clap: :thumbs_up:

We, well I, can learn a lot from the 4x4 league and I really enjoy this discussion. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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Have you guys seen the latest issue of the SA4x4 magazine? They have tested 5 Double-Cabs for wheel articulation. For those that does not know, wheel articulation is immensely important offroad, it measures how far a wheel can drop or be pushed up - thus, the longer a vehicle can keep his wheels on the ground, the better the 4x4 will have traction.

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"The best of the bunch was the Isuzu with an RTI score of 380."

"Interrestingly, the Isuzu scores a better RTI score, pointing to the fact that the Isuzu's suspension, rather than the chassis, is doing the flexing."

The scores were:
- Isuzu 380
- Navara 366
- Hilux 366
- Amarok 366
- GWM Steed 352

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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My first 4 x 4 was a Isuzu Frontier. It's just a pity Isuzu don't sell the Frontier anymore. Does any one now if there is any plan to sell a similar vehicle to the Frontier by Isuzu. :hmz:

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Son Godin,

Yes, that is indeed a sad case, as there are models available, just not in SA. Just thinking of the Isuzu VehiCross and its capabilities gives me goose bumps, I so wished they were available in SA. A friend of mine got his hands on an Isuzu VehiCross, beaut of a machine.

Have a look at Isuzu vehicles not available here:

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According to GM there are no plans to bring in the Isuzu Axiom, VehiCross or any other SUV... :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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@Son godin, you can brake ANY vehicle if you miss treat it - even the "unbreakable" Cruizer :

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That guy you're referring to has a huge problem, and it's not his bakkie.

@Switchback you're right - absolutely no pressure. I will do the video, watch the show cause I drive the worst 4x4 ever... :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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Weskusklong, glad our "brand" has not been mentioned, going on the trip with our "not mentioned" vehicles so we have no pressure! :D


Hi Weskusklong and Switchback,

I could't resist to make you come out with your "not mentioned" vehicles. I pressume all the defense for Isuzu is because you drive one. :lol: Sorry but I just had to throw a stone in the bush (gooi 'n klip in die bos). We had great fun in our Frontier taking her across Southern Africa up to Epupa, Lesotho and Richtersveldt, but she was getting a bid old for the long distances we normally drive and a very thirsty girl. V6 4X4

Those Isuzu pics make me :mrgreen: :mrgreen: . Just wonder what the going price would have been.

Lastly you will not see me drive up Bertha. :lol: That will be my SO's duty so don't give him too much grief. :naughty: :tongue:

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I won't be giving anyone grief, that's Bertha's job! :thumbs_up:

Are you staying one extra night at Twee Rivieren after our trip SG?

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@Son godin;

Getting up a dune is about selecting the right gear, put foot and lots of momentum. It is the domain of high powered petrol vehicles - like the Cruizer 4.5 EFI but I can tell you that the Frontier V6 is an awesome dune runner - very under rated.

In the hands of a man like Sakkie Coetzee of IOC, the Frontier has won many Bridgestone Fundi Challenges - showing a clean pair of heals to Cruizers, Gelandewagens and many more.

...and yes we are WAYYYYYY of the topic now :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Hilux vs. Navara...any suggestions?
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Hi Switchback,

Yes we will be there until the Friday and will then move up north again to Nossob and Grootkolk for 2 weeks. Hope we will get good sightings of the big cats and the rare ones like caracal, brown hyaena and AWC and AWD (no 4x4 talk here and , just dogs and cats).

Who is Bertha again, can't be as bad as Moegatle!

Hi Weskusklong,

Pity we sold the Frontier, but on the topic now I understood that it will be moved and we can then continue with these discussions. :dance: :dance:

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Son godin wrote:
Who is Bertha again, can't be as bad as Moegatle!


Oh so you know Moegatle! :dance: No, Bertha won't be as daunting, but may be more unforgiving though... Driving an Automatic also helps in sand, so where diesel looses ground in sand, my automatic makes up a bit for it.

Staying way OT (luckily the original question has been answered... :whistle: ) I ALMOST joined the RTT gang, but I'll post more on that in our Nossob Eco trip thread.

After our Eco Trip, I'm staying two nights in Twee Rivieren, I just want one day to drive up to my beloved Mata - Mata in the hope to see cheetah, I had my best sites on that side of the park last time.

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