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No if it was me I would have 5 nights at Polentswa or Grootkolk with a night at Nossob on each side

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You see, pjw , everybody has their favourite camps for many different reasons.
I myself think Kalahari Tented Camp is a great camp especially if you have have teenagers because the camp has is a swimming pool.( This is the only unfenced camp that has a pool) But I could not stay there for more than 2 nights because one can really only drive south...it is only 3 km away from Mata Mata....so one basically drives the same road every time you go out. This is great if there is some action to be seen but otherwise it could get a bit boring!
The tents are spacious and a bit bigger than the other unfenced camps. We have had lots of spotted hyena sightings at the camp . The waterhole is quite far away but it is still enjoyable to sit on the deck and survey the surrounds. There are many birds in the trees as well mongooses and squirrels that come to visit!

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Thanks for the advice everyone. Like you say everyone has their own favourite, so I'm now going to read as many trip reports as I can and add that to this info and make an educated guess as to what will suit me and my family best
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Just back and my favourites are TR and Nossob.
At Nossob routes going south and north are both great
And the routes from TR going to Mata Mata or Nossob are both
so different in landscapes

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My view Pjw,

Nossob is the best traditional camp for me. It is near Marie se Draai, a 10 km loop where there is always some action. Going north a bit is also productive. There is a high density of lion in the area, and cheetah also pop in from time to time, and brown hyena are present. Birding is good around there, especially raptors. Look out for tawny & martial eagles, black chested snake eagles, greater kestrels, lanner falcons and the ubiquitous pale chanting goshawks.
Grootkolk is the only wilderness camp I have stayed at, and it was great, but if wanderw had her way (and the money) she woud live there!

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Thank BB. I've just been reading Wanderw trip report. I'm quite green and even more determined to go to KTP now

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My views are as follows:
1. We only use TR to go in and out of the park as we feel it to be too close to civilisation for our liking.
2. Nossob is great in so much as you are in the middle of the park and you have a choice of going either north or south (problem there is which way to go!)
3.Urikaruus is great as you are inbetween TR and Mata Mata which gives you a really peacefull hour either early in the morning before the MM and Tr mob reach you and conversley in the evening.We had a leopard on the road to ourselves for 45min this last trip! at Urikaruus
4. 7 days is too short a time in the park. our minimum is 10
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Very useful view Gavin. Thanks for that. I would agree on TR, but the section between TR and Kij Kij also deliver very good sightings and one rarely are dealing with tall grass situations there. Do you suggest that one then use KK as your base or do you go and camp at Rooiputs - seen some scary photos of lion visits there?


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Pjw choices, choices!!! Of the 4 camps we were in on our first (and not last!) trip to KTP I would say Urikaruus and Nossob were the most special and this is not because of spectacular sightings but rather because of the amazing atmosphere at these camps. Urikaruus is not to be missed... it may creak a little (ok, a lot) but you just can't beat waking up in the middle of the night, sitting up in bed and looking out over the waterhole in the hopes that something great would appear (Try and go at full moon and it is even more special!)

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I would go for Rooiputs if you can - Whilst KK is a stunning camp, if you want to see the action on the TR Kij Kij road, KK
is about 38kms (1 hour) or so away from the intersection at Kij Kij


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Urikaruus has in fact been renamed Creakaruus Still my favourite, but I would gladly stay in any camp except Garaghab - too far from anywhere and too quiet.

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Thanks Guys for all the advice Its going to be a big help
How does this sound
!st night TR
2nd night Mata mata
3rd night Kalahari tented
4th night Nossob
5th night Grootkolk
6th night Nossob
last night TR

Any comments? Are the distances reasonable ? Should we do nights at Kalahari tented rather than go to Grootkolk?

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If you are staying in chalets your itenerary would work, but not if you plan to camp at MM and Nossob. I prefer to stay 2 to 3 nights at a camp as a minimum - love repeating drives and allowing time to spend at water holes - just to watch the action - or enjoy the peace and tranquility if there is not much action.

How far are you driving before arriving at TR? if only from Upington I would skip TR and go straight to Mata Mata or Urikaruus.

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You've got a lot of driving. I would suggest that you stay at least two nights at Mata-Mata or KTC and two nights at Grootkolk. Believe me, Grootkolk has its own magic.

My suggestions is

TR
Mata-Mata or KTC
Mata-Mata or KTC
Nossob
Grootkolk
Grootkolk
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Billyf we will probaly be going from Augrabies as we plan to spend a day or two there before going into KTP. .
Thanks for that advice Batsman. We won't miss Grootkolk

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