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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi entry via Kaa gate
Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:47 pm 
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Hi, Me again
The road from Kaa - Nossob is thick sand tweespoor track. It took us around 4 hours. I believe it will be possible (but long) to travel from Charles Hill to Kaa in a day, but not all the way to Nossob. Kaa a worthwile stopover - bush camping experience.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi entry via Kaa gate
Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:36 pm 
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Hallo,

Thanx this all ready helps.
We were hoping to do the trip from Windhoek to Nossob in 2 days with only one overnight stay.
Are their any camping facilities on the road from Charles Hill to Ngwatle/Kaa?

All vehicles traveling are 4x4's: 2x Discos and one Mercedes Gelanderwagen.

Other option might be to leave Windhoek the Friday- overnight close to Buitepos= 3 hours drive.
Then do trip Buitepos to Kaa on Day 2 = est 10 hours.
Kaa to Nossob on Day 3= 4hours

Camping at Kaa must presumably be booked through Botswana authorities?


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi entry via Kaa gate
Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:53 am 
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Hi Adele73
You could camp at Ngwatle, but you have to arrange for that at some nearby village. Your 2 night option can work. Arrange camping at Kaa through Botswana. They are very helpfull. The only problem might be that they can be reluctant to give you a booking at Kaa, because according to them, they only keep it for emergencies. So what we did was to not book, and just piched up there at five and they had no other option than to help us. There was camping space open. But try to book first if possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi entry via Kaa gate
Unread postPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:23 am 
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Hi Adele,
There is also a bush campsite at Khandu pan, about 38km from the Kaa gate in the direction of Swartpan. You will just have to back-track to the Kaa - Kannaguas road to Nossob.

A nice open campsite overlooking the pan. Book at DWNP in Gaborone.


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 Post subject: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:56 am 
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We heard there is a new tar road that one can travel inside Botswana.
You enter at Lobatse- Sekoma- Werda -Tshabong and then I presume all along the border of RSA. Does anybody know about that road and has anybody traveled it.
We are going to the Park in December and it will be my dad's 4th visit this year and he says he cannot take the stop and go's anymore on the normal roads in RSA.
Any advice will be much appreciated.
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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:50 pm 
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Not too sure about this new road...
The last time we travelled to Kgalagadi we took this route: Lobatse - Jwaneng - Sekoma - Khakea and then a right unto the cutline leading into Mabuasehubhe where we stayed 3 nights, from there we took overnight Wilderness trail enroute to Nossob.

The route you might be referring to carries on straight from khakea through Tsabong - before exiting Botswana right towards Khuis arriving at Twee Rivieren on the bots side. Judging by the approx distance along this route it could easily take you 6 hours just between Tshabong and TR (if the road conditions match that of the cutline, Tweespoor paaidjies with high middelmannetjies and loose sand the order of the day...

To be honest I've not heard of anyone doing this route on this site or the 4x4 Community forum, would advise you to rather book a couple of nights in Mabua to experience some wilderness (we saw a total of 3 vehicles during our entire stay (4 nights) in Mabua...


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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
Unread postPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:38 pm 
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Hi,
We did that road from Tshabong a few years ago and it took for ever. But I hear now that it is tarred and most popular stopover at Vanzylrus...going through the Middleputs border and tar all the way joining the Upinton - Twee Rivieren Road.

Vanzylrus to Middleputs border 8 klm
Border to Road 170 klm (police station at turnoff)
Road to Twee Rivieren Gate 70 klm
Sounds to me like the Hotel and camping grounds could be quite a nice stopover.
Going to do that route next year but via Potch not that horrible krugersdop road.
Hope this helps Janice E :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
Unread postPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:45 pm 
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Hi
I found an article on the internet where Botswana gov officially opened the tar road between Tshabong and Bokspits, 257km of new tar road. so if I understand correctly you can travel from Lobatse - to Bokspits on tar, with NO stop and go's, abnormal loads and lots of trucks , what a bargain.
I suppose you can cross the border at bokspit and travel on tar on SA side, or go from bokspits to Two rivers on gravel.60 km
We will certainly try it in December. :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:23 pm 
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Bibronsgecko wrote:
We are going to the Park in December and it will be my dad's 4th visit this year and he says he cannot take the stop and go's anymore on the normal roads in RSA.



Sorry for the stupid question (maybe it's the language... :whistle: ), but what do you mean for "stop and go's"?
thanks! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
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There is a few posts here on the last couple of pages on this subject, from mites who have travelled that way

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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
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'Stop & gos' silvia are parts of the road that are being worked on. Usually a km or 2, where they allow one way traffic only.

One way goes and the other way waits for a while and the controllers then allow the other way to go and stop the first one. It is usually controlled by traffic lights.

You could get 3 of these in a 10 km stretch.

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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
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Hi,

This road sound like a good idea, but there might be one problem unless I am wrong. One is not allowed to take any red meat into Botswana from South-Africa and even if you can shop in Lobatse/Kanye there might be foot-and-mouth disease control point further on.

Does any one know if there are any check/control point between Lobatse and Bokspits? I am only familiar with the control points along the A1, between Gweta - Maun and Maun - Shakawe.

I will try this road on the way back from KTP to Gauteng in Dec 2011, but on my way to KTP my fridge will be full of meat for the 3 weeks holiday and I rather not risk losing it or having a huge braai along side the road. :tongue:

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 Post subject: Re: Gauteng - Kgalagadi via botswana(new road?)
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Oops forgot about the meat restrictions...Supposedly South to North and East to West are ok.
But it can be up to the officials at the checkpoints. Looks like we will do the same ...come back with the empty freezer :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: Getting there or away via Botswana (new road)
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:39 pm 
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Hi,

Finally I can plan a trip to Kgalagadi :D

On a website I came across the new tar road through Botswana via Middelputs and Bokspits. It sounds interesting to take this alternative to N14 but I had the same thought as Son godin: what about the meat? It would be heart breaking to leave all the wors :( .

I also found the information that it is OK to take meat in Botswana from east to west. But nothing official.

Does anyone have more information about this topic in the meantime?


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