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 Post subject: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:41 pm 
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Hi everyone! It's my first post here. :D

I'm from Brazil and I will live at RSA for the next 14 months. I have booked accommodation on KTP for May 2015. It will be for me, my wife and my 4 years old son. I would like to know if I can drive around the South African side of KTP with a car like an Accent (small sedan)? I don't intend to take the 4x4 trials, just drive by the mains roads between Two Rivers, Kalahari Tented Camp and Nossob Rest Camp for a week. I did a quotation for a 4x4 on Upington, and the prices are quite expensive :shock: :shock:

I would appreciate any advice.

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Rodrigo


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:19 pm 
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Hi rcrRodrigo and Welcome!

I'm not sure just what sort of car an Accent is, but I have always visited KTP in a sedan -- Toyota Corolla, Ford Fiesta, VW Polo -- and have had few problems (once got stuck in very soft sand at a lion sighting, but visitors with a well-equipt bakkie rescued me). Many prefer being higher up, as you are in an SUV, and it's true that there are a few places where, in a sedan, you can't see over the verges, but I've really never felt that I was at a disadvantage in a sedan. Plus, one advantage is that you are on eye level with lions and other wildlife rather than looking down at everything.

I'm sure that you will be fine in your Accent. Have a great trip!

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Hi arks, thanks for your post.

The Hyundai Accent is of the same size of a VW Polo Sedan. I don't care too much about been in a higher car, like a SUV. My main concern is about get stuck on sand with my sedan. Did you get stuck on sand many times?

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:51 am 
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I only got stuck in sand that one time, when I'd stopped to ask others what they were looking at and had not realised that I was stopping in a patch of soft sand. There are occassional patches of soft sand on the roads, but only dangerous if you actually stop in one, you can usually see that there's soft sand in the road and just drive thru or around it, with no problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
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rcrRodrigo wrote:
Hi arks, thanks for your post.

The Hyundai Accent is of the same size of a VW Polo Sedan. I don't care too much about been in a higher car, like a SUV. My main concern is about get stuck on sand with my sedan. Did you get stuck on sand many times?

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Will you be hiring the car?

My daughter has a little Hyundi and she manages our farm roads pretty well. Once, when it was particularly rainy and she was going up a hill with mud and grass covering the road, she reversed up the hill and that got her out of trouble.

If ever there is a problem, remember that the reverse gear is a pretty helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:29 am 
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The car is mine. That's the reason I'm making this questions, because I would like to do all the trip with my car, so I can save some money.

According to your expertise, is May usually a month without rain, so the roads would be dry?

Thanks again you all!


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:26 pm 
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Hi rcrRodrigo.
The rainy season is usually over by mid to end April.
I have been to KTP during May a few times and only experienced a light rain shower once. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:50 pm 
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Hi rcrRodrigo and welcome to the forums.

On our first trip to KTP we had a Toyota Tazz and got stuck once. As in arks' case, some very nice people pulled us out.

Just remember to lower your tire pressure - recommended pressure is posted at the petrol stations. Driving during the middle of the day when the sand has really heated up can be a bit tricky but just watch out for soft sand.

We have also done it in a VW Polo. The only problem was that we lost a hubcap somewhere along the road. It was a bit of an issue with the car rental company. :( If we ever get another VW, we will take the hubcaps off before heading out and then put them back on just before turning the car in :whistle:

You will be fine in a sedan.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:03 pm 
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Thanks for all the Tips guys. I'm gonna make my trip with my sedan. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:37 am 
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This is a very interesting topic.

Are all camps accessible with sedan cars?

We never visited KTP and this was one of our main concerns. Is it possible to visit with a sedan in the rainy season, or is it a no go? :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
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All Camps except Bitterpan and Gharagab is accessible in a sedan.

Rainy season a sedan could be a problem when encountering deep water puddles. The biggest problem being that you do not know how deep they are until you've actually started driving through! But I won't go so far as to say it's a no no!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:26 pm 
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On the confirmation letter from Sanparks, they say that about Nossob Rest Camp:
"Internal roads not suitable for Sedan Vehicles"
But the feed back of the people from this forum say that it's possible to the trip with a sedan, but you have to take some precautions (avoid soft sand, lower the pressure of the tires).


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:04 pm 
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Hello,

You might want to check out these companies for 4x4 rentals (website is in German though)
http://mietwagen.check24.de/
http://www.billiger-mietwagen.de/

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:10 pm 
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Hi rcrRodrigo,

Also welcome to the forum!

We've been many times to Nossob in a normal sedan (most of the times a Toyota Corolla) and never had problems reaching and driving inside Nossob camp. The last part of the road to Nossob is quite sandy but if you deflate the tires of your car this won't be a problem, even the last part were the road is going uphill. Don't use to low or to high gears while driving soft sand, most of the time second gear and keeping up to 2500 rpm will do the trick. If you get stuck don't keep on trying to "push" the car forward because the wheels will "dig" the car deeper into the sand making the problem bigger. Try to reverse the car to a spot were the sand is not that soft and try again to "conquer" the soft patch with a bit more speed.(but keep the max speed in mind for your safety and the safety of animals and other guests.)
Last but not least: Never leave your vehicle! And take enough water with you, it can take quite some time before the staff is informed and come to rescue.

Enjoy your trip! The Kalahari is a wonderful place to be! (Don't forget to book one of the evening or night drives, you will love it!)

Best regards,


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi with an small sedan?
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:05 pm 
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Mmmm visiting Kgalagadi in November, being new to South Africa (not to Africa) and to this forum btw, we doubted also between a cheap sedan or a 4x4.
Eventually opted for a 4x4 (Toyota HiLux) through a German rental car website. With full insurance included it came at 55€ per day for an 8-day period.
I thought that was reasonable. Won't put up company names on here, but if you're interested...


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