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TE, if you're shopping in Cape Town, then Exclusive Books (EB) and Wordsworth are basically your choices for new books.

- Wordsworth has a branch in the Gardens Centre.
- EB (http://www.exclusivebooks.com/) has branches in the Waterfront, Cavendish Square and Canal Walk.

MM, I also don't like shopping at the Waterfront, but I think EB does have across the board pricing. (The Waterfront is a good outing for a small child, so we do go there more than I'd like :wink:)

Some of the best selections of field guides that I've seen are in the small EB shops at airports. :? If you don't manage to get the book you're looking for in a shopping centre, then the EB at Cape Town Airport is worth a visit. You have to first check in and then go through the security with your boarding pass.

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MM, I also don't like shopping at the Waterfront

OK, you've both gotten me curious, WHY don't you like shopping at the Waterfront?

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Are you going to Namibia on the way to Cape Town, TE.

A lot of Germans do.

I know, and i thought about it, but RSA is to big and the time is limited on 4 weeks. And for my sister it is te first time to RSA, so i decided to be only in RSA.
The route is CT - Port Nolloth - KTP - Graskop - KNP - St. Lucia - Durban. And my sister says, after seeing my pics, that KTP and KNP is a must do. :lol:

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OK, you've both gotten me curious, WHY don't you like shopping at the Waterfront?


Arks, I can't speak for MM, but my reasons are: too big, too many excessively expensive shops, too many people, too much glitz. I like smaller shopping places, with lower overheads (financially and emotionally).

Of course, IMO, Canal Walk is much worse. I went once, and never again. :D

We do go to the Waterfront about once a month for sushi - there's a fabulous sushi place, and my son ADORES sushi. We'll sometimes pop in at specific shops (CD Wherehouse! :thumbs_up:). But I go there as a child-friendly outing - not for a shopping expedition.

However, if you're visiting CT as a tourist, it's a lovely place to buy gifts and souvenirs, and there are nice activities (boat rides, Robben Island ferry, aquarium etc). It's also very safe, and easy to get to.

Mods, sorry that this is off-topic...

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Mods, sorry that this is off-topic...


Where's the sushi restaurant? Image :lol:


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Willoughby & Co! The best sushi in CT, and wonderful fresh fish, oysters, crayfish etc.

It's downstairs near the Mugg & Bean and @home.

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Maybe we can even meet there? :wink:

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restio wrote:
Maybe we can even meet there? :wink:


:thumbs_up: Good plan!


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Mostly agree with you, actually, restio, altho the PnP is convenient to where I've stayed, and sometimes it can be amusing to wander about and people watch. However, now that the CBD is coming back so nicely, I really enjoyed spending time exploring (and shopping) there and could walk into the centre of the CBD (and all the way up Long Street and around to the gardens) from my apartment. And the tourist info centre, where the SANParks info/booking is located (bringing us back on topic :wink:), has a nice, and very affordable (R10/hr), internet cafe!! 8)

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Of course, IMO, Canal Walk is much worse. I went once, and never again. :D

Agree with you totally on that!!! What's so sad is that many foreign visitors see little more of the Cape that this waterfront :roll:

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Why Port Nolloth Toddelefe, just curious, as my sister lives there.

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Why Port Nolloth Toddelefe, just curious, as my sister lives there.

I never stayed at the atlantic ocean (ok CT, but this doesn´t count). And i surfed the net for accommodation on my way to KTP and found there a good looking place in PN. Close to the strand. Looked and sound very nice.

And sometimes you must take a "risk" to get new experiences.

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The beaches are nice there Todde, especially McDougall's Bay, but the water is straight up from the south pole (via Cape Town) and is very 'refreshing'.

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I am ignoring all you guys and going to Ark's post.
Why do I not like shopping in the Waterfront.

Firstly let me say, Cape Town has a wonder full history, with delight full people, and the richest culture in South Africa.
I also lived there for 15 years.

Non the less, there is a very greedy side that I do not like.
To me this is not the Cape Town I love.
I remember, in the apartheid years, that CT was always a thorn in the side of the apartheid government. It was rebellion, it was principle, it was love of justice.

I feel Cape Town has lost sight of that.
I am, bitterly, bitterly disappointed in Cape Town.

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While I appreciate your point of view, MM, I think you should really give present-day Cape Town another look. While I have never lived there, I have had several extended visits there, at one time (1987) living with a family in Oranjezicht. So I feel that I know Cape Town reasonably well and can appreciate the pros and cons of the changes there over the years.

What pleased me most on my 2006 visit was how much the CBD has come back to life, no longer overrun with street children and panhandlers as it was in 2000, but with vibrant shops, markets and restaurants. It was a pleasure to be able once again, as a solo female traveler, to walk all over in the centre.

But the Waterfront complex also has much to recommend it and many locals seem to enjoy it — and to outnumber the foreign tourists. While there are a fair share of overpriced shops and restaurants, there are plenty of affordable places, too, and two worthwhile crafts markets. What's so wrong about taking advantage of the current tourist boom? My only worry is that there are a fair number of foreign visitors who probably don't see much more of Cape Town than the Waterfront complex, but that's typical and unavoidable of any popular tourist destination that has such a tourist magnet. Those who wish to will explore further and discover more of the "real" Cape Town, and those who aren't looking for more won't.

And plus about the Waterfront is that it continues to be a real working harbour — not just a yacht marina. This matters to me because I first arrived in Cape Town by ship (the RMS St Helena) and we docked in the Victoria Basin. Were it not for the Waterfront development, these old piers, sheds and harbour buildings would all likely be razed and replaced by far less appealing commercial development.

Sorry, mods, I know that this is all WAY off topic, but I wanted to present a positive perspective. However, it does address the topic, since I do feel that the V&A Waterfront is a fine place for shopping for field guides, as TE asked.

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