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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:05 pm 
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Does it not come from the fact that they roam plains (vlak) ?? :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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iNkwazi, quite possible.

I also have the following suggestions:

* A man who had to much too drink - becomes a shallow pig... :lol: :whistle:
* If a woman does not drink enough, an ugly man looks like a warthog... full of warts and yellow teeth... with unruly mane and a hair here and there ... :lol: :whistle:


On a serious note, it could be ascribed to laziness of the tongue in Afrikaans -
vratvark (translation: warthog) became vlakvark (shallow pig). It might also be that they graze vlak - level with the soil or dig a bit deeper...???

Nieuwe woorden ontstonden voor specifiek Afrikaanse zaken, dieren en planten en woorden die betrekking hadden op specifiek Nederlandse zaken verdwenen of werden overgedragen op vergelijkbare verschijnselen in het nieuwe land. Ook uit bestaande Nederlandse woorden werden nieuwe Afrikaanse woorden gevormd. Voorbeelden van deze ontwikkelingen zijn

Wrattenzwijn ---> Vlakvark = Wrattenzwijn (Old dutch) = wart pig

It is also indicated that the word wrattenzwijn comes from Maleis. (Wrattenzwijn (inheemse, grofgebouwde zwijnachtige met wratachtige uitsteeksels aan schedel en slagtanden).

Maybe someone else can share more light on this subject?

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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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Scrub hare = English

Lepus saxatilis
Kolhaas = Afrikaans (direct translation = Spot hare)
Scrub hare = English (direct translation = boshaas)
Umvundla = isiNdebele, isiXhosa
Unogwaja = isiZulu
Mofuli = Sesotho
Moduô1ô, modiôlô = Setswana
Tsuro = Shona
Logwatja = siSwati
Mpfundla = Tsonga
Muvhuda, khomu = Venda
Shakame = Lozi
Unshuru = Yei
!Ôas = Nama, Damara
Murchen = hare = Scots
Hazen = hare = Dutch
Sungura = Swahili ((Thanks to the Guides of Selous (Whiteman John and Mzee Haule) and Rumuruti). :thumbs_up:

It would be nice if our foreign mites could extend this list.

The hare in African folk tales is a trickster. In mythology, and in the study of folklore and religion, a trickster is a god, goddess, spiritual being, man, woman, or anthropomorphism animal who plays tricks or otherwise disobeys normal rules and norms of behavior. The hare appears in English folklore in the saying "as mad as a March hare".

The constellation Lepus represents a hare.

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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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Gunner :thumbs_up: (Scrub hare was a topic yesterday on another thread...) :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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I would like to convey my sincere appreciation to the Guides of Selous (Whiteman John and Mzee Haule) and Rumuruti for confirming and providing me with the Swahili words above. :clap: :dance:

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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: very interesting to see all the different names, and so many :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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Richprins wrote:
Ironic how "Aardvark" is the first entry in most ENGLISH dictionaries! :twisted:

That is our small revenge for losing one of the Boer wars... 8)


the old "earth-pig"... :lol:


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It is also indicated that the word wrattenzwijn comes from Maleis. (Wrattenzwijn (inheemse, grofgebouwde zwijnachtige met wratachtige uitsteeksels aan schedel en slagtanden).


It's not a Malayan word. In Malaya a pig is called "Babi".

pieces of Babi on a stick, roasted, called Sate Babi. :twisted:

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Elzet wrote:
Scrub hare = English

Hazen = hare = Dutch


Only Haas LZ.
Hazen is plural. :thumbs_up:


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Richprins wrote:
Ironic how "Aardvark" is the first entry in most ENGLISH dictionaries!

That is our small revenge for losing one of the Boer wars...


:lol: :lol:
Although, of course, the first entry is usually the letter "A"! :twisted: Which, I suppose, still stands for Afrikaans. :hmz:

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I like 'platanna' (sp?) - is it a bullfrog?


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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
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Howzit there cliffR, welcome to the forums :thumbs_up:

I don't think its a Bullfrog, because it's much smaller then that :hmz: Quite a flat shaped frog.

I know Fisherman use them as live bait :twisted:


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A platanna is also called African clawed frog - Xenopus laevis .
A bullfrog is much bigger , Pixicephalus adspersus .

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