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 Post subject: Survival handbook in the Bush... or what would you do if...
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:56 pm 
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Hi Every body!

This is one of the nightmares I regularly do. I am lost alone in the bush (walking, no car!), nothing with me, no help to be expected and the night is coming...!!!

What should I do to survive???

- How to cope with dangerous animals
- How to find water and food
- Where to spend the night?
etc...

Could someone compile the answers...


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Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:14 pm 
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i have this book,not that i ever needed it.always handy to have with you.available from most outdoor and good book dealers.

Title; Dont Die in The Bush
ISBN; 1868254577
Author; Prof. PM Leary

this book covers,a guide to outdoor emergencies and survival techniques in Southern Africa.


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Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:22 pm 
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I didn't think such a book existed... going to give it a look!
Do they say waht attitude to take in front of a lion for instance...???


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Google and Yahoo give no result... What ISBN stands for in your references???
Do you have a link to this book?


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Pikasso I managed to find reference to the book on an SA site fgasa.org.za. If you send them an e-mail I'm sure they can tell you how to lay your hands on a copy. If now joy send me a message and I will contact them (I'm a paid up member and assessor for them) and I will try to get the info for you.


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As for the lion. DON'T RUN. Your best chance of survival is to stand still - if the lion charges either continue to stand or run at it (running at it has always worked for me and I have survived a number of charges - I used to deal with them on an almost daily basis). If you stand they (99.9%) of the time will stop about ten meters from you, glare, back off and the charge again only to stop if you don't run. They do this over and over and then suddenly move of. For this reason as a guide my training says not to shoot until the lion crosses the 10 meter line. Quite scary when you think that a lion charges at about 22m per second. However if you run instinct to hunt will almost certainly kick in and they will kill.

The best thing to do is be aware, trust that prickle in the back of your neck that tells you something is wrong and back off before you get into trouble


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Pikasso wrote:
I didn't think such a book existed... going to give it a look!<...>

Maybe not as such, but if you enter an eco training/bush training program, you'll learn all (ok, 90% of all) there is to learn... :wink:
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Do they say waht attitude to take in front of a lion for instance...???

And - to answer your question - yes, most of the courses have a chapter "How to approach dangerous game" (or something similar)


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To Jeanus: thanks for the link to Fagsa, I hope they send orders to Europe (I send an email to them, asking also about the "Dealing with Dangerous African game" book). I understand you are a guide... where do you work?
Thanks for having taken the time to answer my question...
-> Does your advice concerning lions would also apply to leopards and others...

To Jose: Eco-training in south Africa? maybe hard to do as I only go there for short holidays. It does sound very interesting anyway! Have you taken such a course?


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Pikasso wrote:
<...>To Jose: Eco-training in south Africa? maybe hard to do as I only go there for short holidays. It does sound very interesting anyway! Have you taken such a course?

Hey... I'm a EU resident too! :wink: And yes, I have. Several, in fact. PM me if you need details.


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I still have no answer from Fgasa... can somebody help me get a copy of " don't die in the bush" and maybe "dealing with dangerous game" ????


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Pikasso,

I have send you an PM regarding the book you are interested in.

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 Post subject: Re: Survival handbook in the Bush... or what would you do if...
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Well, when facing a lion, take one step left, only then retreat if possible. :twisted:

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Muhammad wrote:
i have this book,not that i ever needed it.always handy to have with you.available from most outdoor and good book dealers.

Title; Dont Die in The Bush
ISBN; 1868254577
Author; Prof. PM Leary

this book covers,a guide to outdoor emergencies and survival techniques in Southern Africa.

There is a new version of ISBN so try 978-1868254576

It's on Amazon UK but not in stock

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 Post subject: Re: Survival handbook in the Bush... or what would you do if...
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All this talk about what to do if and when charged by a lion is rather interesting. :hmz: But what happens if you pass out on the spot :big_eyes: :big_eyes: I have this feeling that my legs would give way and down I would go ........I suppose the person behind me would be next on the menu !!!!! :D :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Survival handbook in the Bush... or what would you do if...
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I have also heard that its a good idea to raise your hands in the air in order to make yourself look as big as possible, not sure how true that is tho.

Of course the thing is to remember all this when the time comes. :whistle:

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