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 Post subject: Wide Angle Lens Advice
Unread postPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:09 pm 
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To all the Obiwan's of photography.

If you had to choose a wide angle lens for landscape's etc. which one would you choose and why? I'm talking here about focal length, aperture and angle of view rather than makes of lenses. Obviously keeping cost in mind let's limit it to ZAR 6000.

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 Post subject: Which wide angle lens
Unread postPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:59 pm 
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Ag sorry :redface: . forgot to put that one in. it is for Canon, master :wink:


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Full frame or 1.6 crop factor ? How wide do you want to go ?


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On a 1.5 (typical Nikon Crop) and a 1.6 (typical Canon crop) go for a lens with a big angle for dramatic landscapes like 10-22 Canon and the 12-24 f4 Nikon Lens. They both equate to the full frame Classic Landscape config of 17-35. Of course yo can do great landscapes with oddities like a 300f2.8 (@f22 of course!!!)


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With Canon 1.3x upwards the 17-40F4L is very good - but is very soft around the edges on a full frame. Never tried the 16-35 but lot of poor comments on forums (will be intersting to see what the new version is like).

For full frame the 24-70 is a superb - one of the sharpest lenses I have with very little distortion. 24 on full frame is about as wide as I need.

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 Post subject: Which wide angle lens
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Thanks for the reply BC and RH.
j-ms, preferably full frame.
To the guys that did reply, why a wide angle zoom and not the fixed focal length? keeping in mind that this will mainly be used for landscapes. With the fixed lenses you can get down to f1.4


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I am a prime man myself but I think that for landscape a zoom gives more flexibility because it is difficult to "zoom with your feet" when doing landscapes. Also, the faster apertures of primes are no real advantage for landscape where you will be stopping down to F16 anyway. If you are going FF (ie. 5D) then I would seriously look at the 17-40L or the 24-70L.


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I'd go for the L lenses 10/10, however, if budget is an issue and you have a crop camera i.e. 20D, 30D, 400D etc, then I have heard good things on the 10-22mm and some pretty mixed ones on the Sigma 10-20mm. For more info, please have a look at www.fredmiranda.com, there are a lot of user reviews on ratings on all the different kinds of lenses


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What about something like the sigma 10-20 SLD .
This is as wide as you can go , with the zoom going from ultra wide to wide .

This works out to about a 15-30 mm on most crop factors , And more importantly meets Wild-doc's criteria of it costing less than R5K .
My biggest issue with most sigmas is there focus speed , and with landscapes this is not an important factor .

Why zoom - because as j-ms says , you cant position yourself easily to suit composition , and the zoom will give you far more scope to compose a decent shot .

The f-stop of 5.6 should not be a problem , as with landscapes you should be using a solid support anyway , its not like a bird that you are trying to freeze the motion of the wings etc , where every stop helps .

I am very very keen on getting this wide angle myself , as I am sitting with the kit lens still , but would like to read more reviews before I fork out R5k on it .

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Thanks for the great replies guys. Yes for great landscapes a tripod is a must, so speed might not be a consideration.
Now to juck a spanner in the works what about a fish-eye lens?


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Why not add a spanner? :wink:

I will use any lens for landscapes. Just set up a tripod, plunk the camera on top, insert spiritlevel in the hotshoe, level everything to totally horizontal, and make a pano.
Obviously for work like that a 1200 mm lens will mean a ton of photos, so slightly less mm's will work better.
For a fullframe camera I would actually think of a prime. A very expensive one, the EF 50mm f/1.8 II, also called Plastic Fantastic. You can probably get it for less than R1000, it weighs next to nothing, has a dimunitive size (and certainly looks odd on a camera with grip like a 1DSMKII), and is very sharp.

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DQ, I have the fantastic plastic and do my landscapes using it. As you say, it is very cheap and very sharp but on a 1.6 crop body you cannot get the exagerated perspectives that you sometimes want with a wide angle, eg. dumb cow staring in your face while the green fields strech out into the distance.


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Wild-doc wrote:
j-ms, preferably full frame.

Which is why I proposed the plastic.

OK, for a photo like that you really need the 10-22, but I thought to put a easy and cheap option into the topic.

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DuQues wrote:
Wild-doc wrote:
j-ms, preferably full frame.

Which is why I proposed the plastic.

OK, for a photo like that you really need the 10-22, but I thought to put a easy and cheap option into the topic.

I should have remembered it was for FF ... and at less than 1K, the fantastic plastic leaves a few rand over to get to KTP or Kruger or wherever !


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Going for FF I like DQ's idea with regards to the 50mm. Have read only good reports about it. Also a handy little portrait lens if needed.

The 17-40L and 24-70L like j-ms said are also quite good. On a FF I would probably say the 24-70L but on the 400D/30D or something similar you might need the extra width of the 17-40L

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